"breaking new liberals are ignorant" i know this isnt new to us but i couldnt resist and entered a political discord server and debated with someone on why Lenin wasnt anti-semite? and why Marx wasnt anti-semite either especially considering how his father is jewish himself...and then the guy switched to how the soviet union was anti-semitic because they seized synagogues belongings? and i tried to explain why this wasnt directed at jews but rather religious institutions as a whole because of the power they held in the russian empire....he also used the "muh authoritarianism, vanguard party authoritarian" which ofcourse he would mention not knowing that reactionary movements would have eleminated the revolutionary progress made if it werent for the vanguard party protecting it. He then proceeded to compare the vanguard party to israel because i said the vanguard party and with it the people need to hold all power to protect the revolution which he translated into "yuh but if you are anti-israel that means that israel should also protect itself from the palestinians for its survival" (him being pro-israel). Funny thing is that he considered himself a socialist eventhough he admitted to not like marx and called himself a pre-marxist socialist? He also admitted to never have read theory and this is the part that annoys me the most: He called himself a socialist.....
Everytime i try to be reasonable with these people they pull out the most randome take out of their asses and i try to educate them but they mock me. All i can hope for is that they will become class-conscious and be enlightened about the all the trash propaganda they have been fed...but aslong as this isnt the case if fear they will need to face the wall if they keep being the enemies of the people
Any time someone identifies with some outdated or obscure ideology you already know the conversation isn't going anywhere useful.
No no no, let me continue to argue with a guy who describes himself as a "neo-bonapartiste"??????
Egoists are hilarious. Like, cool, buddy, you managed to find the most individualist ideology, so individualist in fact that nobody but you fucking cares!
I had to deal with one of them in my local group years back. To the point where they straight had Engel's drawing of Stirner as their profile pic, and i just replied with "nice egon spengler avatar dude".
At least Spengler was fighting actual, literal ghosts rather than dropping his particle thrower, calling the very concept of ghosthunting the real spook and then leaving the city to be ravaged as if he had completed his job.
Still very funny.
Yeah, to no surprise they became an "anarcho-nihilist" or whatever. Still never showed up to the meetings.
I just checked their profile (it's been almost a decade now) and they describe themselves as "anti-political" lmaooooooo
Maybe went to therapy and realized their political interest was consistently leading them down utterly depressing ideological rabbit holes. 🐇 🕳
Sounds like they're still working on the part where they keep that shit to themselves, though. "Anti-political" lol. At least "nonpolitical" is a rather neutral term. How does one fight "politics"? Death to anyone with political inclinations of any kind? Re-education centers where they teach the politicals to grill?
Here is a song from egoist https://invidious.io.lol/watch?v=-p0IjnBhG10
People really go out of their way to call themselves fascists without calling themselves fascists.
does "neo-bonapartiste" mean his partner cheats on him and he has to let it slide so he doesn't look weak?
That's more of a "neo-bone-apart-us"