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Forced is another thing altogether, mass slaughterhouses aren't humane because the animals suffer in them even before you're killed. Here it's just regular farming from villages, no one is forced to it, it's just day to day life.
Then about smoking, regular cigarettes destroy health altogether and it's just baffling to me that they are legal while weed which actually helps with cancer and effects of treating it is illegal in most places.
I kill bugs all the time idk if it counts, but I did when I was younger with my brother, it was for grill if I remember correctly. Did you kill the rabbit for food or? Because there is a certain species of rabbit which has a valuable wool(I forgot which one exactly) and they literally torture them by pulling off their wool while they're alive which is disgusting.
They are forced by their need to acquire meat. It's not the same coercion as under capitalist domination but I'd say that counts as being forced to kill by their material conditions. Slaughterhouses are definitely worse than barnyard slaughter, maybe the two can't be compared, but I don't think there've been studies about hunting or small scale animal husbandry. The mass suffering is also definitely worse, but death is its own kind of horror regardless of whether we suffer before our end or not.
I killed for food, sort of. I was in Scouts and we did lots of camping trips where we'd do stuff like: start a fire without matches, make an improvised shelter for sleeping, learn how to treat hypo/hyperthermia in the bush, fish without a fishing pole, etc. I don't regret any of that, but that rabbit fucked me up. Killing and gutting fish isn't nice either, but I never had trouble sleeping because of it. Catching a rabbit and watching her struggle in the snare, breaking her neck, it was pretty horrible.
As for bugs, maybe I'm not a True Vegan but as far as I'm concerned they're a natural and plentiful source of B12 in case the supply chain ever collapses and I need to survive entirely off of beans and rice. I'm not going to go out of my way to eat crickets as long as I can just eat fortified yeast, but I'd definitely feel a lot better about it than eating any mammals, birds, fish, etc.
Yea slaughterhouses are definitely inhumane, but farms, hunting and livestock are normal here and we've been doing it since prehistory, so unless we can clone meat one day, that's just how we live.
I don't eat rabbits specifically but yeah they are one of the animals people keep as pets and unless they're breeding uncontrollably on farms, I'm against it.
Some white people are disgusted by eating bugs even though it's normal in many parts of the world(and they eat water bugs), I wouldn't have a problem with it, it's what these guys in survivalist shows in the wild do.
Why would cloning meat be okay? That's not normal, so shouldn't people stick with what they've always done and slaughter animals?
Some people want to clone meat, idk if it's feasible but most are skeptic of it.
I know, but it's not "normal" and you seem to think that matters? Personally I don't think "it's normal" actually means anything. That's just the inertia of history - a quirk of our material conditions. Normal isn't necessarily best.
We eat chapulines in Mexico. It is very normal in indigenous land.
Damn, now I understand why veganism is so divisive.
They look delicious