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Discussion: Cybertruck involved in attempted bombing in Las Vegas auto-locked after explosion (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/technology@beehaw.org
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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/police-investigating-vehicle-explosion-trump-hotel-las-vegas/story?id=117252987

The sheriff said Tesla CEO Elon Musk helped the investigation by having the truck unlocked after it auto-locked in the blast and giving investigators video of the suspect at charging stations along its route from Colorado to Las Vegas.

What if this hadn't been purposeful but an accidental blast... and the doors auto-locked someone inside? Do you need Musk's personal cell number to be able to get out alive? What even is this?

Seriously, how are Tesla's not widely considered dangerous deathtraps at this point.

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[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 15 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It was a bit of a rhetorical question. EV fires are way less common than gas car fires.

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/electric-car-fire-statistics.html

https://cleantechnica.com/2024/06/01/actually-evs-dont-catch-on-fire-as-frequently-as-gas-powered-cars-do/

Also, CATL makes most of Tesla's batteries, so they are subject to more QA than Tesla, though some are assembled in Nevada.

Bottom line, make fun of Tesla for the actual shitty things they do, don't perpetuate unfounded rumors

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Car bomb attacks are also exceedingly rare. I personally think the odds are an even split both ways.

Either way, it's truly despicable that the doors auto-locked during it, and I think Tesla needs to answer to an investigation on that one.

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 6 points 6 days ago

That really isn't the point. It could be 50/50 for this incident, but EVs (and as much as I hate saying something good about Tesla), even Teslas, don't have a track record of blowing up. Plus the gas and fireworks in the back say intention. Maybe earlier than intended, but carrying that much flammable cargo is a fire waiting to happen

[–] psud@aussie.zone 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Tesla doors lock when a key* has been disconnected for a short time while parked

* a key being a phone via Bluetooth, an RFID card, or a dongle. The card is disconnected if removed from the reader area (such as by a bomb going off). Phones are disconnected if too far away or if the phone or Bluetooth are turned off, dongles are disconnected if moved too far away or destroyed, for example by that bomb or the fire

The vehicle is most likely set to unlock in a collision, but in this case it was parked so it's normal for it to lock when the key is not detected, that's how "walk away lock" works

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 days ago

Then put a fire sensor in the car to keep the door's unlocked. I don't know, but the fact it stayed locked may have cost the driver their life. I personally think it was a dickhead with a bunch of fireworks planning on a BBQ out in the desert (propane tanks) or something.

[–] prex@aussie.zone 6 points 6 days ago

Absolute agreement here.
Just want to plug https://www.evfiresafe.com/ as experts on the matter

[–] LukeZaz@beehaw.org 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

The Cybertruck is very much an actual shitty thing that Tesla does. Sure, maybe they don't literally "have a habit of exploding all on their own," but I don't think Gork was exactly trying to play off as an authority on the topic. Just mocking Cybertrucks being shit.

Nobody's attacking EVs writ large, here. Just Elon and his awful ideas.

[–] Vodulas@beehaw.org 5 points 6 days ago

Sure, I get that, but it still plays into the EV hate. I know they aren't the single solution, they are a part of a bigger strategy. Just hate to see bad information spread, even through jokes.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm orange pilled so I agree it's bad, but I can't see anything but aesthetics that makes it any worse than any other light truck commonly used as urban transport.

Sure Musk inspired it and set its target specifications and price, but it was Tesla engineers who designed it, Tesla factory workers who built it and Musk's companies don't seem to have suffered from his fall from popularity