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A soldier with the Texas National Guard allegedly fired a gun near the U.S.-Mexico border, hitting a 22-year-old man across the border in Mexico.

Mexican authorities and an advocate for human rights say the bullet crossed the border from El Paso on Saturday near the Bridge of the Americas.

It then struck the man in the leg in Ciudad Juarez.

According to the Border Network for Human Rights (BNHR), that man was not attempting to cross the border, but practicing sports with a group.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If this happened as described the person who did this should be handed over for trial in Mexico. Which isn't going to happen. Maybe the Mexican government should send their army to the border to protect their citizens.

[–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

If this happened as described, it's an overt act of war and Mexico is within its rights to invade the US, if it had the capability.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No it's not.

It might have been an accidental firing, it may have been some retard racist, it may have been twenty other things. Either way, two friendly neighbours that need each other's economies would not and should not start murmuring about war over relatively small incidents like these.

Yes, it hugely sucks for the victim and the US should financially pay for everything but that is what you have diplomats for.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would be a casus belli, but it won't actually result in war. There's a difference. No matter what the situation, unless the US gives the shooter over to Mexico, it's a perfectly justified casus belli, just a useless one because there is no way that's happening and more diplomatic ways to handle it.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

That is basically what I said. Friendly Countries don't typically go to war over the actions of an individual

[–] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It might have been an accidental firing

The chances of accidentally firing across a fucking river and hitting a moving person in the leg are approximately zero.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Eh, no, it's not. Any idea how many people are killed by stray bullets, each year? Those parties where people start shooting in the air... Those bullets have to come back down at some point, and they do, and unfortunately too often on people too.

It may have been on purpose, it may not. Claiming it's impossible is nonsense

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 9 points 1 year ago

No. That's not at all right. Accidents happen, no two countries are going to go to war over one random person accidentally shot.

It isn't going to lead to a nice conversation, but that doesn't mean it could (or should) lead to a war.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well no. A single dumbass soldier has never been a casus belli.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean... Archduke Franz Ferdinand was killed by a single man

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And that war is one of the first examples always brought up of needless war in an era of rich people looking for glory as a distraction from boredom and a way to gain social rank.

Not really a great example for this considering the refrain after was "never again".

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I wasn't really making any larger point or comment about it.

Just saw your comment about a single dumbass never starting a war, and thought of good ol' Gravilo Princip.