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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What do you get out of being deliberately obtuse?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Saying your address is public information is being deliberately obtuse. Share yours right fucking now if you disagree. If you don't share it, you agree they're different.

[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't feel like it, go get a phone book and look it up yourself, or go to my local City Hall and find out there. Because it's a matter of public record.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can't help but notice you haven't given your name and city. Could it be because you prefer to keep them private?

[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You know there's a distinction between free speech in the legal and moral sense? "I want my privacy" and "That is private information" are also distinct. This is obvious. Stop being deliberately obtuse, everyone sees through it.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I don't think it's being obtuse to be shocked they're just putting people's addresses in a news article when it's not relevant. That's not being obtuse. I very clearly mean the "want my privacy" sense. You're the one who brought up "that is private information." 🙄 But you're accusing me of being obtuse.

[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 day ago

I was being kind. It's also possible that you're just a dumbass, which is looking increasingly likely.