Add getting the Trump bucks during the initial COVID waves and I don't know what else to say than he's materially the best president weve had in my life.

I mean it really shows how useless and evil the Democrats are more than anything. It's fucking wild

(Obviously it's not over yet, not getting ahead of myself, but this is the most progress we've seen by a long shot)

edit: folks it should be obvious i dont think he is doing this as a good thing or that it's not going to be a double edged sword. i'm just saying look at biden and compare.

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[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 30 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'm waffling between "This is like praising Reagan for negotiating the hostage release in Iran" and "Well it's not like the Democrats were actually trying." Happy to end up being wrong but I'm thinking we should wait for the other shoe to drop before we draw any conclusions.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 21 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

"This is like praising Reagan for negotiating the hostage release in Iran"

That would only make sense if Trump was working behind the scenes to sabotage Democrat led negotiations until he got elected. Even if he was keen on doing that, he didn't have to because there were no actual negotiations.

But the motives here are very different. With Iran both parties wanted to bring back the American hostages (obviously), and Reagan only sabotaged it for personal gain. But in this case Biden didn't want a deal and Trump is only indirectly causing a deal because of his isolationism.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is only indirectly causing a deal because of his isolationism

At the risk of going a little conspiracy-brained, I think attributing this to isolationism is a facile reading. I don't think Trump actively colluded with anyone but it's reasonable to assume that Netanyahu did what he could to drag out the negotiations knowing that a ceasefire would be good for the dems politically but, even so, they wouldn't try to apply any leverage to get an agreement in place. Bibi needed the ceasefire because the genocide is destroying Israel's economy, but he also needs Hamas because they're how he holds onto power. So while the agreement looks like a loss for Israel and like Trump had to twist their arm, it's still a win for Netanyahu. Now they can quietly annex the West Bank once the world stops paying attention and go back to the slow genocide in Gaza, which the Trump admin won't do anything to prevent.

[–] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

yeah i mostly agree with this. it is partially what i'm talking about. bibi saw trump as ok here's someone i can reasonably say "he talked me into it" to, whereas with biden and harris, who kept shouting for israel to kill all Palestinians, there isn't a way to not look weak.

this is why the democrats suck so fucking bad

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 5 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, it is impressive how many ways they've managed to be awful.