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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Yes and no, you still have admins here, just like on Reddit, you can get locked out of interacting with thousands of people at the whim of your instance's admin and the only recourse you'll have is to join another one instead...

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago

That's pretty big recourse though.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

"The only recourse you'll have" is the whole point. You have no recourse on Reddit. There is no other Reddit server. There are many Lemmy servers, all over the world, with very different views and policies.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

And you're just jumping from one instance to another with admins that can censor you again and again. You create your own instance and other instances' admins can censor you by defederating from your own instance.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Just out of curiosity, what's your solution?

(Putting aside that what you describe is still far more room for ban evasion than non-fediverse platforms.)

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/16065977

Basically, decentralize the back-end independently of the front-end, eliminate admins altogether, mods still exist but they only have power on their communities, they don't have site wide power.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That wouldn't work that well, especially when you take law into regard. For example, the european Digital Services Act regulates platforms and platforms have to respond to obligations, sometimes deleting content. Communities are not platforms, instances are. Ergo, you need instance admins be able to comply and respond to the DSA.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The server owners would take care of the content hosted on their server and would need to filter it based on their local laws (to remove CSAM for example, just like current admins need to do), but otherwise this type of decentralization would make the website pretty much a neutral zone that operates outside of specific laws since the people hosting the content (and its backups) could be located all over the world.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

How's that different from now?
Or do you want users to not be banned instancewide for breaking instance rules? Or do you want to abolish instance/server rules aside from local laws altogether?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

No instance, no admin with power over users themselves, only community mods.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Instances = servers. No instances = nowhere to host content. And again, admin roles are a necessity for any server based infrastructure.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

There's because you don't understand the infrastructure I'm talking about.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Enlighten me. Where do you want to host stuff?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 28 minutes ago

It's all explained in the link I shared, you do like any other website but instead of using multiple servers owned by a single company it's multiple servers owned by random people and devs can create a front-end to access the data found on those servers.