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6 months? You think 6 months to see an oncologist is rare in the US?
Are you including the number of people who don't seek any care until they end up in the ER with acute symptoms because they couldn't go in to get regular screening or preventive care?
And before you say that should be covered by the ACA you are still ignoring that hospitals are open 9-5 and the people who can't make it to the hospital are working the job they need for health insurance during those same hours, provided they have transportation and can take off more than an hour to wait for the primary care to visit them.
Not to mention, if the cancer hasn't progressed to stage 3 or 4 by that point, the health insurance won't likely be paying for the most effective treatment, they'll be paying for the treatment "they have on record for effective treatment".
And who's to say you can even get into an oncologist familiar with your cancer? Then may feel more comfortable referring you to a John Hopkins, or Mayo Clinic, or one in California. So now you have to pay for transportation and living expenses in another state while you get treatment and don't work. Some insurances might cover this. Most won't. Some companies will foot the bill. Most will laugh at you.
6 months? It's a 5 month wait to get a new primary care provider here. Fuck your 6 month complaint.
It is not 6 months. I had cancer in Canada, I waited 2 weeks while they developed all the planning and radiation paths, and other related scheduling of hospital stuff. 2 months later I was finished treatment.
I was not talking about the US at all.
Thank you for your comments.
This thread is discussing Trump's comments that joining the States would result in better health care for Canadians. Posting in a thread discussing this topic with a comment that does nothing but talk about the perceived failings of the Canadian health care system is implying that the American system is better because of the context in which the statements were made.
If you are "not talking about the US at all," then what are you talking about? That's the conversation: Canadian vs US health care.
My only point was in response to OP saying about Canada "I like our system", and I was just pointing out that not everyone does, because there can be very long waiting periods and/or the care received may not be what you wanted.
And American can also have the same long wait times.
The main difference is Canada's healthcare is paid through taxation, as it should be in every nation. Nobody should be avoiding seeing a Dr when they need to because it's too expensive.
Canada has its failings, and our systems are not perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than America's.
Yes I agree with your points.
In context, that is compared to the U.S. healthcare system. I also don't mind waiting and having my taxes cover my health, instead of paying exorbitant prices in the states just for healthcare.