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[–] blame@hexbear.net 36 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

i think the thing that keeps me on this side of the "tankie" line is I just can't understand how anarchists plan on dealing with antagonistic capitalist states. Look at the world socialist countries exist in. You have to be decisive with putting down opposition and you should get nuclear weapons because otherwise the CIA is gonna be in there causing trouble. Without considering the realities of a communist state or whatever they want to call it coming into existence it's just idealism.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

if you want some sectarian commentary that explores this divide check out

https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3353112/3457999

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago

Woah that was a good read

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 24 points 5 days ago

I'm not an anarchist myself but there's definitely some tentative solutions to those problems. I don't think it's a problem with anarchism as an ideology, but with this specific type of online leftist who seems to be very preoccupied with being ideologically correct (while never reading theory) above actually carrying out meaningful actions. That's the idealist part. The whole horizontal organizing and statelessness while still having ways to defend yourself (not sure about nuclear weapons) from hostile capitalist states I think isn't idealism, it's just a different way to fight capitalism from what we've synthesized on the "authoritarian" left.