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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Nope. I'm against meat production because it harms things and we don't need to do it. Being gay doesn't harm anything. My underlying logic does not support bigotry. My underlying logic does support things like fighting for LGBT rights and abolitionism.

You need to try harder.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Someone else eating meat harms you just as much as some else being gay harms fundamentalist Christians- which is, or should be zero.

There is no harm to you if I eat a steak. None.

And like my comparison, it’s just as much your business if someone eats a steak as it would be a fundamentalist Christian’s business who other people love.

There is no reason you have to tell others how they should live their lives if they don’t ask you for your opinion.

Lastly, I didn’t say eating animals is similar to bigotry. That would be an easily extinguished straw man. It’s not the purpose, it’s the justification of telling others what to do based on YOUR belief.

So no… Your logic doesn’t support bigotry. But it does support oppression. And righteous oppression is your commonality with bigots.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I've already gone over this with you. Someone eating meat doesn't harm me just like my government banning gay marriage doesn't harm me just like my government legalizing slavery doesn't harm me. I don't care if it doesn't harm me, it harms someone and we don't need to do it. The Nazis weren't harming Americans. Do you think we were wrong to step in and tell them to stop killing Jews in Europe?

There is no reason you have to tell others how they should live their lives if they don’t ask you for your opinion.

You continue to make arguments that slavers would have made against abolitionists

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

So now we’re back to slavers?

lol…

Okay… you’re clearly vapor-locked on that and have no intention to stop using false equivalence, so like the others, you’re getting tagged with “Blowhard Vegan” and getting blocked for a time.

Have a nice afternoon.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 minutes ago)

I keep coming back to slavery because you keep making arguments in defense of it. I could use rape or murder or robbery or neglect or physical abuse or genocide or any number of obviously evil things as examples instead, because your logic allows for all of those to be acceptable. It's not a false equivalence, because I've never once equated any of these subjects. All I've talked about is what your underlying logic leads to.

"You're not the one being harmed" is not a justification for harming something, it's an attempt to shut someone up when they're pointing out that you're harming something.