this post was submitted on 31 Jan 2025
716 points (99.6% liked)

politics

19634 readers
2946 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. accused Bernie Sanders of taking millions from Big Pharma during a heated exchange, but Sanders refuted the claim, stating his donations came from workers, not corporate PACs.

Kennedy repeatedly insisted Sanders was the top recipient of pharmaceutical money in 2020, but financial data shows no corporate PAC contributions to Sanders.

Meanwhile, Kennedy has profited from anti-vaccine activism, earning millions from lawsuits and speaking fees.

The debate ended without Kennedy answering whether he would guarantee health care for all as HHS secretary.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 201 points 1 day ago (4 children)

“And by the way, Bernie, the problem of corruption is not just in the federal agencies. It’s in Congress too,” Kennedy said. “Almost all the members of this panel, including yourself, are accepting millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical industry and protecting their interests.”

“Oh, no, no, no, no,” Sanders said, raising his hand to quiet the applause that erupted from the gallery. “I ran for president like you. I got millions and millions of contributions. They did not come from the executives; not one nickel of PAC money from the pharmaceutical industry. They came from the workers.”

RFK just kept saying it over and over again like Sanders didn't address it. 1.5 million of the 200 million raised for his presidential campaign came from health care workers. And he still didn't answer the question, only for Sanders to be told he's battering the witness.

Fucking hate this time line.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

RFK just kept saying it over and over again like Sanders didn’t address it.

Sanders is used to this sort of treatment. Though not from Republicans.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Keep saying it as if it was never addressed because that's what works.

If you say something enough times it is reality to the majority of the voter base in the US.

If you ignore all refutes logic or facts and simply steam ahead with your word being the only right word then that will become reality

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Keep saying it as if it was never addressed because that’s what works.

Reminds me of this: https://youtu.be/PbsGJ2c2R4M?t=59

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yup, plenty of people will say that RFK won the argument, simply because he remained aggressive and seemed to be on the offensive. Lots of people don’t critically listen to the content; They just listen to the tone, and determine the winner based on that.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

That's part of the fundamental problem is caring about who won instead of what is actually correct

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's always been like that. It's throwing mud and hoping it sticks.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago

Shit. They are throwing shit.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Yup. When I make a donation, one of the lines is "Who do you work for?" But just because I donated doesn't mean my employer or business category were the ones donating.