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[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 89 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is a national embarrassment.

This is literally doing permanent damage to America's reputation. We can't even say "We didn't know" because we saw what Trump did during his first term, what he promised on the campaign trail, all the illegal and corrupt activity he's involved in, and we re-elected him anyway. We knew, we re-elected him, and he did exactly what he said he was going to do. That is going to be an awfully steep hill to climb for the next President who's going to be tasked with repairing the damage Trump caused.

The meeting started out with Musk -- who has absolutely no business even being involved in our government -- openly mocking Zelinsky's attire like he's a high school bully picking on the poor kid in the neighborhood. This is what we are projecting to the world.

I would also like to point out that while companies such as AP and Reuters have been banned from the White House, Russian state media was allowed in.

This couldn't have been a bigger win for Putin if this meeting was followed up by a shot of Trump sucking on his toes.

So much embarrassment, so much national and global damage, so much damage to America's reputation. All in one meeting. Decades of work, pissed away by two nepo babies and their fragile egos.

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Why would/should anyone in the international community trust the US after this?

US diplomacy can turn on a dime depending on who is elected now. The US cannot be trusted beyond the term length of the current president or even current congress.

The rest of the international community is going to unite and isolate the US. Its not ever going to be good again

[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

This is the end of a once great america, no matter Trump's promise...

All trust is gone for years, perhaps decades to come.

The petrol dollar that gave the US it's hegemony by stepping away from gold reserves into the dollar as backing financial system will be dismantled.

It already was on shaky grounds with the US printing infinite money without guarantees to pay off a huge debt beyond the petro dollar's shield, but now all trust in the US is gone and the shift to another monetary system will start.

BRICS will take off and Trump can not stop it (not even counting him being under russian influence to let it happen). Europe will pay oil in euros for a while.

In a decade we might see rise of a global traders currency based on a true, set value.

[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Forever is a long time, but there needs to be consequences for Trump's behaviour. It would be unwise to rely on the USA after this. Establish trade relationships with other countries, and don't outsource your defence to the USA.

[–] NotLemming@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

You're not wrong. I'd never trust the US again unless it became socialist, fixed all the problems within and without, eg national health service, eradicate homelessness and drug addiction, get rid of Guantanamo bay, make reparations to Africa etc.

It’s absolutely fucking insane and entirely mortifying to rational citizens.