God, never been more ashamed to be an American than now.
But then I remember there's always tomorrow.
this post was submitted on 28 Feb 2025
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Maybe tomorrow will bring the end of the states.
One can hope.
Fuck this headline and all reporting that shelters trump from responsibility for his constant failures. It didn't turn to chaos, trump and vance shit all over it because they're weak, stupid cowards pretending to be what they think an alpha is.
Yeah, this title is terrible and I don't know why this post of many on the topic is being upvoted. It's completely misses the real story and instead frames it like Trump is some sort of defender of peace.
The footage of this meeting is truly remarkable and worth watching.
I think it's important to watch uncut unedited footage of meetings like this from time to time, to see the behaviour of leaders first hand. Otherwise it is too easy to just get swept up in the narrative of whatever social bubble you interact with.
In this meeting Trump demonstrates a total disinterest in any past events or context for current decisions; but he becomes quite animated and angry at the end of the video. Apparently he felt criticised and wanted to hit back. But he didn't seem to be paying much attention at all to what was being said.
Zelenskyy is calm throughout, but has clear frustration as Vance and Trump speak over the top of him. Trump accuses Zelenskyy of total disrespect, and says he is 'gambling with World War III'.
Really, it is worth watching. See how leaders of the USA behave.
It's literally a national embarrassment caused solely by Trump because his fee-fees were hurt.
In the past week, we've seen Trump sitting in the oval office and making a national embarrassment of himself in front of THREE separate world leaders: France, the UK, and now Ukraine. Three. In one week.
When you view all of his behavior over the last month and his first term with the context that he’s been a Russian asset the entire time, it all makes sense. It’s not embarrassing, it’s deliberate.
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This is a national embarrassment.
This is literally doing permanent damage to America's reputation. We can't even say "We didn't know" because we saw what Trump did during his first term, what he promised on the campaign trail, all the illegal and corrupt activity he's involved in, and we re-elected him anyway. We knew, we re-elected him, and he did exactly what he said he was going to do. That is going to be an awfully steep hill to climb for the next President who's going to be tasked with repairing the damage Trump caused.
The meeting started out with Musk -- who has absolutely no business even being involved in our government -- openly mocking Zelinsky's attire like he's a high school bully picking on the poor kid in the neighborhood. This is what we are projecting to the world.
I would also like to point out that while companies such as AP and Reuters have been banned from the White House, Russian state media was allowed in.
This couldn't have been a bigger win for Putin if this meeting was followed up by a shot of Trump sucking on his toes.
So much embarrassment, so much national and global damage, so much damage to America's reputation. All in one meeting. Decades of work, pissed away by two nepo babies and their fragile egos.
Why would/should anyone in the international community trust the US after this?
US diplomacy can turn on a dime depending on who is elected now. The US cannot be trusted beyond the term length of the current president or even current congress.
The rest of the international community is going to unite and isolate the US. Its not ever going to be good again
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