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[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Vacations are one incredibly small factor in the overall picture. In order to combat the negative impact we've had on our climate we need to fundamentally change pretty much every aspect of our lives from the top down.

And you're free to be disappointed, but just don't be surprised when other people think less of you for trying to ruin what little guilt-free fun people can have.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago

8% ain't nothing. I'd say reckoning with our travel habits and what we feel entitled to is a fundamental part of any solution.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm less bothered about being a killjoy than I would be about being a hypocrite.

On an individual level, vacations are not an "incredibly small factor". For an average person, a single flight will wipe out all their other conscientious efforts in terms of diet, housing etc. For some reason most people are only dimly aware of this fact.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, but the average persons individual efforts mean fuck all in the scheme of things. It's not individuals that make the difference, it's the collective effort.

Which, frankly, doesn't mean shit in this hypothetical situation. Hypothetically you could use your infinite money to create enough carbon offsets to completely fix the climate entirely for everyone everywhere.

Obsessing about small things like that to the complete rejection of all joy in life won't solve anything. If anything it will drive away any positive influences in your life, making you a joyless curmudgeon who can help no one.

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who's getting angry and defensive in this debate?

My concern is with not being a hypocrite, that's all.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who said anything about angry and defensive? I said you were obsessive.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Eco terrorist zealot. Next thing he will burn local courier company because they use diesel trucks.