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Tesla Claimed 8,669 Canadian EV Rebates as the Program Ran Out of Funds… That’s 1.5 Sales Per Minute (fuelarc.com)

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Between January 10 and January 12, after being warned that an EV rebate program was running out of funds, Tesla dealerships in Canada managed to claim 8,669 individual iZEV EV rebates, or about $43 million CAD in incentives. That’s a staggering number of sales to log in a single weekend, about 1.5 sales per minute. Let's dig into the numbers.

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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 86 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Canadians are furious, but even considering an uptick to catch rebates this is pure fraud:

Let’s run the numbers:

8,669 iZEV rebates over three days claimed by Tesla dealerships.

Mostly claimed by four Tesla locations.

Tesla dealerships in Canada are open from 10 AM to 6 PM.

That works out to 722 rebates per primary dealership per day.

Which equals 90 iZEV rebates per hour.

Or 1.5 Tesla sales per minute.

Let’s take a step back. Two Tesla sales every 90 seconds? That’s absurd. A good car salesperson might close two deals in two hours, not per minute. And that’s in a normal sales environment… not one where every eligible car has to be processed for a government rebate at the same time.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 1 points 43 minutes ago

With Tesla, you submit your order online. I highly doubt that's where these numbers come from but it is possible that the orders were placed online and routed through sales center in the major population areas.

[+] neatchee@lemmy.world -7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Is it possible some of these were liquidations or inventory sell-off or something? As a data person my initial assumption would be a few bulk purchases throwing this calculation out of whack

I could see some private dealership figuring out a way to buy the vehicles and resell them as a hard-to-get item later

Edit: down votes for asking a question? Y'all are weird. I'm not even saying it's not fraud.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 hour ago

It's not for "asking a question"

I suspect the professionals looking into this potential fraud are going to think of these things.
when and how hard you choose to play devil's advocate says something about you.
whether well intentioned or not this is Musk apologia at best, and excuses/misinformation at worst. I think our Transport Minister does basic diligence before asking for an investigation and having the story in the media.

We're all used to these "centrist" / "just asking questions" types and how they only crawl out of their holes to play devil's advocate for fascists, it's tired.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If by "private dealership" you mean the Tesla dealerships themselves. "Buy" their own cars, pocket the rebate, sell the car later.

You know.

Fraud.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do non-consumer purchases count as eligible for the rebate if they plan to resell?

[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have no idea. That's why I was asking 🤷

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 7 points 16 hours ago

So, the data has a "commercial" or "consumer" flag, Canada is apparently quite sensible and thought one step ahead of the shady things auto dealers might try - so we'd be able to see if it was a wholesale sort of deal, I think.

It wasn't, all the sales I saw were consumer flagged.