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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's why we should return to natural time! At any given location and in any given day, the Sun rises at 6 AM and sets at 6 PM. Days and nights have precisely 12 hours each, regardless of time of year. The length of hours simply shifts with the course of the year.

This was how people traditionally kept time, back in the days of sundials or simply telling time by the position of the Sun in the sky. It went away with the invention of mechanical clocks. But, with modern GPS and computers, there's no reason we couldn't return to it. You could have a smart watch that worked on this traditional/natural time system. In the background it tracks time based on UNIX time. But then, based on time of year and you GPS coordinates, it adjusts to match the appropriate hour length for your time of day and location. Coordinating people between geographic location becomes difficult, but I'm sure we can build an app for that. You work the same number of hours throughout the year. Your 8 hour shift is just longer in the Summer and shorter in the Winter.

For those above the Arctic Circle? Well that sounds like a you problem!

Let us return to Natural Time! Let us live as the gods intended!

There are a lot of very good reasons to never do that.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait. Are you saying that an hour is no longer 60 minutes, but one 12th of the time between sunrise and sunset?

We lose a lot of light in the winter, and I'm not sure that I want to spend an extra 3 hours at work every day in the summer.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yes! There will always be 12 hours between sunset and sunrise, regardless of time of year. This is how our ancestors lived. Sure, you work more in the Summer, but you make up for it in the Winter.

[–] Galapagon@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah that's gonna be a hard pass from me. I like my time in predictable increments, thanks.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But it's better, because it's natural. /s

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

At that point you might as well go with the full blown free range organic supernatural time scale, none. Sun dials were a mistake, we must return to the time before he concept of timekeeping existed. "What's the time?" "What even is time, maan. Its all just a construct. Come lay on this rock and let us enjoy this glowy ball move across the sky." "B-but productivity and scheduling and...." "Nah bro its all made up numbers to play societal monkey games man, it doesnt exist. The only 'time' is the present transitioning into the infinitely branching phase space of the future at the speed of causality, maan. The only calendar you need to worry about is the phases of the moon"

[–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 1 day ago

i've lived in places with midnight sun. that's gotta be a no from me.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where I am an hour would be 45 minutes in December and an hour and a half in June. Fine I guess, unless you're getting paid by the hour.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Eh, you'll make more per hour in the winter and less in the summer. It balances out.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But I want to do all my work in the winter and lay around on the beach all summer

Well, that's clearly unnatural, so therefore bad. That logic clearly has no flaws at all!