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[–] RumorsOfLove@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Critically thinking now, how strong is the evidence here?

[–] Allero 6 points 3 hours ago

Those are two real medical diagnoses - Swyer syndrome or XY gonadal dysgenesis for XY women (occurs in about 1:100000 women) and de la Chapelle syndrome or XX male syndrome for XX men (occurs in about 1:20000 to 1:30000 men)

Here is a NORD report on Swyer syndrome, as well as the original article on de la Chapelle syndrome: 1.https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/swyer-syndrome/ 2.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1762158/

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

A person’s biological sex usually refers to their status as female or male depending on their chromosomes, reproductive organs, and other characteristics. Chromosomes are tightly packed DNA, or molecules that contain the genetic instructions for the development and functioning of all living things. Humans typically have forty-six chromosomes. Two of those are sex chromosomes that contain instructions for the development and functioning of characteristics related to biological sex, such as reproductive organs. There are two kinds of human sex chromosomes, X and Y. Individuals identified as males tend to have one X and one Y chromosome, while those identified as females tend to have two X chromosomes. However, other people are born with other chromosome combinations, such as XXY, that lead them to develop a mix of characteristics. People who fit that description are often referred to as intersex, a category for people whose bodies do not conform with stereotypical expectations of males or females at birth.

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Evidence seems pretty strong to me.

[–] IZZI@lemm.ee -4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, and those are malformations and genetical defects that come with a lot of problems.

I don't know why people glorify them... Also, there is absolutely no way that a man born with XY magically will change it in their lifetime as the posts sugests.

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This article seems to disagree. But I don't know much on the subject so I might be misunderstanding.

Also, no matter what the correct answer is, pretending the answer is binary is definitely wrong. Since it's obviously a lot more complicated.

[–] IZZI@lemm.ee -4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

From the article:

"Girls born with XY chromosomes are genetically boys but for a variety of reasons – mutations in genes that determine sexual development"

And again, they don't magically become the other sex, that was already determined at birth.

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

No, not magically, no. You're right.

[–] IZZI@lemm.ee -3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Well, to be fair, not magically and not in any other way, it is impossible to change your sex

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You're the only one talking about this. A change can occur without any surgery. Reread the article to understand better, please.

You read the article and you even quoted it. It says how xx people can be men and how xy people can be women. Nobody said anything about any surgery or magic pill that grows a penis or whatever you're imagining.

[–] IZZI@lemm.ee 1 points 50 minutes ago (1 children)

Yeah nah, you are right.

I knew already about sawyer syndrome and that genetically XY can develop woman traits but I understood from the PhD, for some reason, that you can change from XY to XX during your life...

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago

Ah, okay, fair enough. Shit happens