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[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Anything to disenfranchise a woman.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, look I'm not going to contend there isn't sexism or persistent and structural approaches to disenfranchisement of women..

but in this example a woman, suing another woman, over whether or not the ghost of the estate of the first woman can claim rights to the work that the second woman penned (the second woman also claimed he ghost penned the work, or steered i guess?)

If anyone's being disenfranchised in this story that I think even Scooby Doo would struggle with, it's the ghost of Samuel Clemens.

More broadly, does your estate have rights to that which your spirit creates in the afterlife?

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The woman doing the suing did so on behalf of the estate of a man. Women disenfranchising women via patriarchy isn't "women having the rights they should".

I despise id-pol in general, but this is basic stuff, and historical disenfranchisement NOT being used to distract from the failures of Capitalism, for once. Yes, Gloria Steinem was a CIA psyop, but that doesn't invalidate the points feminism makes.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Women disenfranchising women via patriarchy isn’t “women having the rights they should”.

Can you show me where that is here? Because I really, genuinely am not seeing what you are talking about. The woman suing was the daughter of the author, and I think we can assume, the executor since well, she's doing the suing. Obviously she was not disenfranchised, she was empowered and won the suit. And yes it was her fathers estate, but, well, he is the author. Its not like the ouija boardists claim she wrote the work.

And like, look, I don't even really believe in copyright, but I do understand its role in protecting against reverse plagiarism. So is your issue that these women were disenfranchised from making claims about the ghost? Look I'm pro-stealing copyrighted works, but I think we can both agree that isn't the view of the courts and really, never has been.

Like, how does did you get women disenfranchising women here? Is it just because one woman sued another? And then alternatively, what would you have either Samuel Clemens daughter, or the one who claimed authorship with Samuel Clemens done, alternatively?

My original comment was more off-the-cuff than anything, but really, the system empowered neither woman. BOTH missed out on getting a proper resolution(the case was dropped) to the presumed rights of a ghost, of all things.