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Why is it bible-thumpers who are always so against socialised healthcare and welfare? (hexbear.net)

submitted 1 week ago by DisabledAceSocialist@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net

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It's always puzzled me and reading a thread on reddit just how has reignited that puzzlement. Someone on reddit asked people opposed to universal healthcare to explain why and the conservatives in the thread have given reasons like they don't want to wait their turn for treatment, and that people don't have an intrinsic right to live, along with the usual "WHY shOUld i PAy fOR YouR HealTHcarE?"

Christians seem to lead the charge with objections such as these. And in my experience of asking for help accessing food, Christians were the cruellest and the least likely to help.

I just don't understand how someone claims to follow Jesus but holds beliefs like this. When Jesus handed out the loaves and fishes, did he check everyone's employment and tax status first, and only feed those who were working and paying tax? When he healed the sick and disabled, did he make sure they had health insurance first and refuse to treat those who couldn't pay?

What makes these people such incredible hypocrites?

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[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Lots of people talking about Calvinism... I've actually been on a bent lately trying to learn about Christianity in colonial America. So... what is it about the Calvinists that everyone's implying here? Did John Calvin preach prosperity gospel? I always thought he focused more on the covenant theology stuff.

[–] Meh@hexbear.net 24 points 1 week ago

Calvin's whole thing is the concept of total depravity. That is, after the fall, humanity's nature was unchangeably corrupt and an individual was predestined for salvation or damnation because they had no ability to make choices that would alter that fate. So followers of Calvin believed they were the elect who were innately good and destined for paradise and you can see where this would lead. Those who suffer do so because they deserve suffering and although the elect may be good, they are similarly unable to save others and so there is no point in trying to alleviate that suffering. Real freak shit

[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

Dutch colonial elites were big landlords in New York, which was one of the three centers of early america along New England and Virginia.