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Outside of a few specific places if we're talking car dominated societies this is demonstrably untrue, the point is to make it faster for people in cars, maybe a bit safer and the rest is at best an afterthought. If you wanted to make things safer for everybody, including people in cars, you'd see a lot less wide roads, more obstacles and such.
Again this is only looking at this in the context of cars and nothing else. What kills people when cars run red lights is sometimes cars, but most often people not in cars. And the latter is how the entire system is resolved and is what you're defending here - what's the other option? You can't actually enforce running red lights anymore?
Should be, sure, but that entire field basically runs on the fiction of the ever competent driver who doesn't fuck up. And anytime you try to change this people get up in arms because obviously they're the one person who doesn't make mistakes and as such would like to not be impeded