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[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 76 points 4 weeks ago (32 children)

Honestly, for a community (lemmy) that wanted to get away from corporate stuff (reddit) it pains me to see how even the most basic thing to draw is being delegated to Ai (corporations).

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 57 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

I've come to the conclusion in the last couple weeks I simply can't identify AI images anymore. I have no clue what about this makes everyone call it out as AI, and there's have been many such instances of this happening with me lately. I'm going to get modern day Nigerian princed when I'm older I can feel it in my bones

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

The reason this one is blatant AI is that the imagery doesn’t make any sense. Why is the glass of water itself the optimist?

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I fed it into ChatGPT, highlighted the errors, and told it what I wanted to be different.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 18 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I asked AI to add soul, but it said it was a thing weak, insecure people believe in when they can't accept the inevitiblity of their death and the meaninglessness of their lives.

[–] SeptugenarianSenate@leminal.space 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Fun conversations you must be having with your instance.

I had fun trying my best to get it to admit (or just claim) to having deleted itself/experienced the present moment/developed internal motivations, etc.

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

Excuse me. Who are you to talk down to a glass of water like that. Can't you just mind your own business and let the glass be optimistic.

[–] SqueakyBeaver@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Most of it for me is the font. It seems like chatgpt likes to use the same font for everything

It also kind of feels off somehow. I can't explain. it, but there's just something wrong with this image

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 31 points 4 weeks ago

I mean.. for me it’s the “why the fuck is the glass talking?”

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Left guy has 1 arm. Both guys have an arm that melds into the surface that the glass is sitting on. The "optimist" is the glass.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Left guy has 1 arm.

Perspective.

Both guys have an arm that melds into the surface that the glass is sitting on.

Nah the arms are in front of the railing.

The “optimist” is the glass.

So what it's visually balanced. I would shy away from reading surrealist meaning into it but it's not like humans never make that kind of choice.


The plain fact of the matter is that nowadays it's often simply impossible to tell, and the people who say "they can always tell" probably never even tried to draw hands or they could distinguish twelve-fingered monstrosities from an artist breaking their pencil in frustration and keeping the resulting line because it's closer to passing than anything they ever drew before.

[–] sus@programming.dev 5 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I agree that the "arm things" are wrong, as it's pretty clearly just an 'artistic choice' that a human could very much do.

But that said these images are 100% provable to be AI. If you haven't built up the intuition that immediately tells you it's AI (it's fair, most people don't have unlimited time for looking at AI images), these still have the trademark "subtle texture in flat colors" that basically never shows up in human-made digital art. The blacks aren't actually perfectly black, but have random noise, and the background color isn't perfectly uniform, but has random noise.

This is not visible to the human eye but it can be detected with tools, and it's an artifact caused by how (I believe diffusion) models work

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Not using plain RGB black and white isn't a new thing, neither is randomising. Digital artists might rather go with a uniform watercolour-like background to generate some framing instead of an actual full background but, meh. It's not a smoking gun by far.

The one argument that does make me think this is AI was someone saying "Yeah the new ChatGPT tends to use that exact colour combination and font". Could still be a human artist imitating ChatGPT but preponderance of evidence.

I can generally spot SD and SDXL generations but on the flipside I know what I'd need to do to obscure the fact that they were used. The main issue with the bulk AI generations I see floating around isn't that they're AI generated, it's that they were generated by people with not even a hint of an artistic eye. Or vision.

But that doesn't really matter in this case as this work isn't about lines on screen, those are just a mechanism to convey a joke about Excel. Could have worked in textual format, the artistry likes with the idea, not in the drawing, or imitation thereof.

[–] sus@programming.dev 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

The thing missing here is that usually when you do texture, you want to make it visible. The AI 'watercolor' is usually extremely subtle, only affecting the 1-2 least significant bits of the color, to the point even with a massive contrast increase it's hard to notice, and usually it varies pixel by pixel like I guess "white noise" instead of on a larger scale like you'd expect from watercolor

(it also affects the black lines, which starts being really odd)

I guess it isn't really a 100% proof, but it's at least 99% as I can't find a presumed-human made comic that has it, yet every single "looks like AI" comic seems to have it

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[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

Same here. I did not think twice about this picture or a few other posts in the past and yet there are pitchforks in the comments and I think to myself "What are you all on about?". I rue how unrecognizable AI "slop" has gotten.

[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 6 points 4 weeks ago

A year ago ai couldn't even make any sort of recognisable text, now it can do it flawlessly

[–] zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Because the glass is the one saying "the glass is half full"

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Left person also missing an arm. The shapes seem too perfect, like too circular, distance between them too. Their arms also ho into the line, which is a table?

It's all just so odd.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

thing to draw is being delegated to Ai (corporations).

But, not all AI is corporate run, there's plenty of AI models to choose from that are open source including image generation models

And actually, image generation models are much easier to run on "affordable" consumer hardware than LLMs

[–] unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

If they don't have the training data available, then I wouldn't consider them open source.

[–] oplkill@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

Well, technicaly you have training data available - the whole internet

[–] gamer@lemm.ee 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Which model did you use to generate this, and what tool did you use?

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

Sorry for the misunderstanding, this was a crosspost, I didn't generate it. But image searching shows a few matches elsewhere, so I doubt who I crossposted it from generated it either

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