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[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Propaganda can be true sometimes. That the cutting edge of missile tech has been well ahead of the cutting edge of missile defense has been an open secret for at least a decade. It might not be as fast as twenty minutes, but the truth is there is nothing that anybody can do about the most advanced missiles being made today apart from hoping that they miss. The problem with carriers is that they are big, slow targets. Every carrier has this problem, not just the US fleet.

[–] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

there is nothing that anybody can do about the most advanced missiles being made today apart from hoping that they miss

You can help them miss. If they're using GPS navigation, jamming works. It then reverts to inertial navigation though, so the longer you jam - the bigger the error.

Or you could try shooting it down, I doubt they can even dodge a head-on intercept without losing a load of energy.

edit: btw the problem you're describing is why cbg is a thing

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Weren't there some wargames a few decades ago where some group playing the "terrorists" sank a US carrier with nothing but a few speedboats and some RPGs or something similar? I am thinking of the one where they "rolled back" the wargame. It has been quite a while since I read that so I don't remember all the details.

[–] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 1 points 6 days ago

Ripper declared his speedboats were armed with anti ship missiles. Which were bigger than the speedboats.

[–] Buelldozer 14 points 1 week ago

Millennium Challenge 2002. That was a boondoggle. Yes the opposing force won and they had to reset the game but the OPFOR was up to some ridiculous shenanigans. For instance instead of using radios, which could be intercepted and tracked, they used motorcycles to convey messages...motorcycles that could travel at the speed of light.

Another piece of silliness is that there were commercial vessels (non-combatants) on the virtual water but OPFOR sometimes used them in ways that were impossible. As an example radar would return a 12 foot fishing boat and then that boat would launch four 20 foot long anti-ship missiles.

Then there's whole idea of a CBG just hanging around shore for days on end staying inside a pre-determined box so that OPFOR always knew their location, something that almost certainly not happen in an IRL conflict.

The Commander of the Opposing Force was extremely clever but they needed a long list of nearly impossible to achieve advantages to make it work.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I remember reading that as well, but I recall CWIS wasn't turned on for some reason.

[–] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 1 points 6 days ago

Wasn't turned on because the fleet was forced to stay too close to shore and commercial shipping lanes by the exercise.