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[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 30 points 14 hours ago

Hypersonic missiles could destroy every major city in the US in 20 minutes. Just have to put a nuclear warhead in them. The US is deploying hypersonic missiles too. This doesn't change anything except that in the case of Armageddon we will have half as much time to find someone to bang before we die.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 10 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Btw isnt this also true vice versa? With the way technology is today(even disregarding nuclear) you could completely destroy your oponents navy if you have hypersonic missiles which, if i understand correctly, a lot of countries have considering how effective they are

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Not sure what they can do. I seen to remember Russia shooting 6 of these at Ukraine in 2023 and then being shot down. I assume they must be different?

[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Russia shot old school missiles at Ukraine and One ICMB, that hit put rest of EU on alert leading to an increased military budge

[–] febra@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Why does this feel like they want to throw even more money at the military industrial complex?

[–] GenXLiberal@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly - they can’t use Russia’s military strength as the boogie-man any longer.

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

It’s fine. They’ll just find more fraud waste and abuse

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 165 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (4 children)

From now on you must view all of their words and actions through the lens of a fascist dictatorship. This is almost certainly propaganda intended to increase fear of Chinese supremacy and using that fear as an excuse to invade Panama.

I hard doubt the US doesn't have classified hypersonic missile tech, and even if they don't, this admin won't stop maintaining, building, or deploying these "vulnerable" billion dollar aircraft carriers. Everything conservatives and DOGE cut is everything that benefits the working class, and increases their quality of life and economic mobility. They never cut anything that enables their authoritarian capabilities.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 41 points 22 hours ago

Don't forget how they were able to slap a basically poor-only tax with their tariff bullshit.

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 19 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Propaganda can be true sometimes. That the cutting edge of missile tech has been well ahead of the cutting edge of missile defense has been an open secret for at least a decade. It might not be as fast as twenty minutes, but the truth is there is nothing that anybody can do about the most advanced missiles being made today apart from hoping that they miss. The problem with carriers is that they are big, slow targets. Every carrier has this problem, not just the US fleet.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 7 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

Weren't there some wargames a few decades ago where some group playing the "terrorists" sank a US carrier with nothing but a few speedboats and some RPGs or something similar? I am thinking of the one where they "rolled back" the wargame. It has been quite a while since I read that so I don't remember all the details.

[–] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Ripper declared his speedboats were armed with anti ship missiles. Which were bigger than the speedboats.

[–] Buelldozer 12 points 18 hours ago

Millennium Challenge 2002. That was a boondoggle. Yes the opposing force won and they had to reset the game but the OPFOR was up to some ridiculous shenanigans. For instance instead of using radios, which could be intercepted and tracked, they used motorcycles to convey messages...motorcycles that could travel at the speed of light.

Another piece of silliness is that there were commercial vessels (non-combatants) on the virtual water but OPFOR sometimes used them in ways that were impossible. As an example radar would return a 12 foot fishing boat and then that boat would launch four 20 foot long anti-ship missiles.

Then there's whole idea of a CBG just hanging around shore for days on end staying inside a pre-determined box so that OPFOR always knew their location, something that almost certainly not happen in an IRL conflict.

The Commander of the Opposing Force was extremely clever but they needed a long list of nearly impossible to achieve advantages to make it work.

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[–] Buelldozer 8 points 19 hours ago

I hard doubt the US doesn’t have classified hypersonic missile tech....

The HACM (Hypersonic Attack Cruise Missile) is already out there.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, carriers in this modern age probably are mostly sitting ducks against any modern adversary. They could barely take on Yemen.

If your adversary has satellites that can tell them where you are and a sufficient amount of missiles / torpedoes, there's only so much you can do.

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[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 40 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

This guy can't even name a single country in ASEAN but is giving advice on china, a neighbour of ASEAN. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/trump-defence-secretary-pete-hegseth-cannot-name-asean-country-4862576

Russia can wipe out US in 15mins using all their nukes in a suicide attack. worry about Russia first. Defeat russia in Ukraine first.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Him not being able to name a single ASEAN country should have instantly destroyed his career. It's literally in the name so it just means he doesn't even know what it is and then that absolute moron continued to name all other neighboring countries that are not part of ASEAN lmao.

America will never recover from this. It secured its image as a disgruntled band of intellectual retards for the next several decades at least.

[–] admin@sh.itjust.works 14 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)

"Russian army underwhelmingly unprepared and weak according to Chinese POW" lol

https://lemmy.world/post/28249156

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[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 94 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

How the hell would this guy know? He's not qualified to run a game of RISK much less comment on anything that really involves defense

[–] prex@aussie.zone 44 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

What do you mean? This is the secretary of defence, a highly qualified post that...
...oh, oh no. Wow, you guys have problems.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I can't even keep track of which positions have the dumbest trump appointments. They're pretty much everywhere at this point.

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago

Can we do a competition? I thought Tulsi would've been hard to beat, but Walz came from behind in the signal chat incident.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

But, you see, he looks like a secretary of defense, so therefore he must be an excellent one!

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

He looks like his mom dresses him.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 61 points 22 hours ago

Hegseth himself is a bigger threat to the US than China will ever be.

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Well, since it is basic military doctrine that you should never field a unit that you can't afford to lose, and the billions in $ losses and thousands of sailor lives means we can't afford to lose a carrier, this suggests that carriers are now obsolete and should be retired.

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[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 62 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Why would they bother when Trump is going to sink the whole country?

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

and that is putins plan essentially, needs USA out of the way so russia can reclaim former soviet states.

[–] Atin@lemmy.world 27 points 22 hours ago

Never interrupt the enemy when he is making a mistake.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago

"We need to enslave and control the population to survive against a perceived or projected foreign enemy." Translation from Trump cabinet language to English.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago

I’ve heard bullshit before. This sounds exactly like that

[–] Brainsploosh@lemmy.world 41 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I think the correct question here is:

"Why? They couldn't before you were in charge."

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 15 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Biden didn't leave the keys to the anti sink plugs I guess.

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[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago

Someone should tell interestingengineering.com who Pete Hegseth is because obviously they haven't been paying attention for the last few months.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 11 points 18 hours ago

China can kill us. We need more money for war. (Has the biggest and most expensive military in the world) SMH

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago

This article's been here for almost an hour, are the aircraft carriers still okay?

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

China watching the Houthis fail to hit a single ship with a 30 missile salvo:

Even with supersonic anti ship missiles, successfully attacking the US navy is notoriously difficult, to the point that they've actually averted invading Taiwan unless some golden opportunity falls into their lap.

[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I think the Chinese Mach 10 Yj-21 hypersonic missile should send pretty much any carrier group to hell if they have 2 or 3 of the type 055 destroyers launching them at once.

Given any carrier battles probably happening in the Tawain strait I'd expect the land based and fighter based missiles would be launched as well so yeah I give the US really no chance of winning that one as things stand.

I think the US badly needs the same type of missile but they seem to be only getting failures, I read earlier in the week they'd cancelled another (Halo).

Don't get me wrong I'm sure the US could launch enough of their own LRASMs (stealth anti ship missile) to do some damage back but they'd likely not survive to see the result or get that many planes airborne to launch them.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago

Please do it.

[–] Wazowski@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

Press X to doubt.

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