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[–] gerikson@awful.systems 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

not every programmer posts to social media...

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Id say a lot of the better ones dont at least not regularly (in my exp), did hear from one of those that they had a problem with new hires, some lf them have very random output quality wise, until they get fired for using llms for everything.

[–] mii@awful.systems 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Our company is currently looking for a new programmer and we've interviewed a few so far. I don't want to generalize but it really seems that a non-negligible part of the younger ones at least tries to use LLMs to make up for a lack or experience, and that really shows.

I normally don't like doing programming challenges during an interview because they have little to no real-world connections, but I've been throwing small questions around lately just to see what people do, and how they approach them, and there's a subset of people who will say, "I would ask ChatGPT now" in those scenarios.

I haven't met a vibe-coder in real life yet, but I'm afraid it's only a matter of time.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 2 points 7 hours ago

I haven't worked in industry for a while now but from your accounts it seems like... nothing's changed?

Sturgeon's law very much applies to software engineers. I'm sorry but the vast majority of people in my junior cohort I wouldn't hire to replace my lightbulb. Of course they're all in on LLMs. They'll be doing what they were doing best, generating tons of awful code they copied from somewhere else that the adults in the room will have to clean up later, just the generation and copying is now paid at a $100 monthly subscription.

Like seriously, it doesn't matter even a tiny bit the code got generated by a bullshit machine when the code is Node.JS anyway. If you're building a giant penis out of cow dung it doesn't matter who your construction crew is and how good they are. And the industry is like 90% building giant penises than never come to fruition anyway.