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Heard they planning to do same shit in Russia. Honestly, I don't think this will work in any country.
Well it does work actually. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_bonus
I mean, of course it works if you imply that the money is given to families with newborns. Even fact that families will make a baby for that is a fact albeit not exactly noticeable.
5k even in Russia is a pocket change for raising a baby. It will help for a few months, but when it rand out, quality of life of that said baby and their parents not gonna increase. So it is a short game, not a long game.
What really would increase birth rates is stability and security. It is backed in our nature. 5k is not safety or stability. It is a bonus, nothing more.
I don't disagree with you (apart from maybe $5k being a pocket change in Russia), we need to reduce inequality and bring back financial security in our societies.
There seems to be a small misunderstand on your part though - this baby bonus is not trying to increase fertility, at least not directly. The main goal is to reduce child mortality. The main beneficiaries of these bonuses are low income families, and for them every little helps. It's also just one part of the support system, as all of the countries from the article have other welfare systems to accompany.
It would be a baby bonus. If we had free healthcare and subsidized daycare then it would be a bonus. But we don't have those things, so it's an insult
The rest of the world thinks that the USA is weird, yes. But if I was an American, I would take any little help that I can.
It's offensive and condescending given the extreme lack of overall support for parents, I'm glad non-Americans cannot relate. They should change the amount to 1 penny, it would be more appropriate, have nearly the same effect, offend us the same, and save (billionaire) taxpayers more money, which is the real goal.
You said you would take any little help you can, here's a pwetty penny. Go buy yourself a gumball.
Nothing on that linked page implies it works, just that some countries have done it.
What's your definition of "works" in this context then?
I would understand working to be accomplishing its stated goal, which is increasing birthrates. I believe there's very limited evidence for that.
A baby bonus of $100 will also lead to improved outcomes. $10 too, just harder to measure. Heck why not $0.01?
What are you arguing here exactly? Are you saying that $5000 are negligible to parents?
Yep. Might as well be a penny.