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5000$ is a lot. In Germany you get only 250€
well, that's
per month until they're 27 (as long as they're still in school/university)
plus free healthcare for mother and child
plus free daycare (depending on the state)
plus free schools and universities
...
To add on, seems like the 5k (USD) is a one-time lump sum. Your price quote from Germany is already 3k (EUR) after a year. It only every outscales the 5k.
See. Let's ping Trump and tell him about it.
Maybe he'll see the light
Daycare cost $2k a month
Is that for real? That's more than (many) private schools in Europe.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/05/15/business/child-care-cost-average-annual
It can depend of state to state too. In Oklahoma, our cost of living is considered low but we have a high poverty rate. Our median income per household is 67k, and single income is 35k. Childcare for infants averages around $800 a month
Wages have not kept up with productivity and GDP increases since the 1970s.
How about making single income middle class families possible again, so you can have one stay at home parent.
$5k in a Roth IRA in the sp500 at birth is the only way that it is worth anything.
They'll need a population boost after Trump deny's immigrants entrance into America.
It won't even cover the cost of giving birth. This is some real "how much could a banana cost" energy.
Also, the cost of giving birth will magically jump up by $5,000 as soon as this passes. It was never a function of how much it cost to actually provide that service.
$8000 if the mother wants to hold her baby after birth
monkey paw finger curls You get free healthcare coverage and half minimum wage for each child just for existing. However, you and your child must renounce your citizenship, forfeit your passport, and accept indentured servant status until you can buy back your citizenship after repaying the government child support in full.
Having a kid will cost you much more than 100grand. Giving you 5k to fuck is such an insult.
The type of person who would think 5k for having a kid is a great deal is exactly the type of person conservatives would bitch about having kids and leeching all the other government resources.
Coincidentally, it's also the exact type of person conservatives want having kids. They make up the majority of prison labor, military fodder, and wage slaves.
They just cut head start, slashed medicade(51% of us babies are born on this program), no medicade no pediatric care for your baby either, cut hud, slashed the department of education, blocked student loan forgiveness, are dismantling the aca preventative care mandate, gutting worker protections, canceling child labor laws, laid off 275,000 workers and destroyed their livelihood and tanked the economy ……yea the birth rate is going to plummet. 5k lol doesn’t even cover a fraction of the utter devastation coming to American families from these moronic policies. Who in their right mind would want to bring a child into this racist sexist tech bro oligarchy?
The Headstart cut hurts a lot. I know people that gone to that when they were little and had nothing but good things to say.
But that is a lot of complicated words, 5k is much easier to make a headline about, and re-elect the same people.
yea the birth rate is going to plummet.
I'm not so sure. Impoverished countries have the highest birth rates. I can imagine the logic of the wealthy 0.001% being "if we make the rest of the country as broke as Somalia, the birth rate will also be as high as Somalia."
And all to fund tax cuts for the wealthy - who don’t need them.
Are you saying the game of achieving highscores for world's richest person with ever higher numbers isn't important? /s
It really is a bummer to have such a legitimately retarded man just riding this country into the earths crust all Slim Pickens style.
That's a weird way of wording "You'll only have to pay 95K out of your 100K bill of your hospital stay for giving birth"
5K PER MONTH and paying for the full hospital bill would be a great place start. But of course, they aren't really pro-life to begin with.
Pro-Birth =/= Pro-Life
They don't care what happens after birth.
$100k wtf? I only remember paying for parking at the hospital...evil socialism!
In a lot of places 5K a month covers daycare, and not much more
To be fair that is the kind of place where the argument "move somewhere cheaper then if your income doesn't match the cost of living" does have some merit. Oh, and fuck the employers who pay wages below the cost of living in their area.
daycare costs $2k a month? are they training the kids to be astronauts?
To be honest, childcare is expensive. You can only have so many kids per worker, you need to pay rent for a big space, utilities, etc. In a big city it adds up fast. I'm sure some of it goes to some CEO's Yacht, but even at cost it would be expensive.
The reason it's free/cheap in Europe is because it's subsidized from taxes. Same as universities and Healthcare.
No, just extracting the maximum possible amount of profit, it's the American way. And 2k is the low end.
wild. you'd think as a capitalist country that wants to maximize workforce for cheap labor people would be more incentivized to procreate. yet you have insane costs to childbirth alone, no parental leave for either parent (or a pathetic amount on state level), no child support... and this on top.
Same problem as ever. Short term gain vs long term growth.
$2k gets you Jimmy "Boots" McClusky, on day release from the work farm.
Based on data presented here: https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-true-cost-of-raising-a-child
It takes a minimum of $200K USD to raise a child from birth to 18; which works out to ~$1K/mo.
If the Government were serious in wanting to address the aging population issue, the best way to tackle it would be to provide family funding at this level for a family’s first ~3 children.
Would it be expensive? Absolutely it would be in the initial term - but the increase in economic activity would arguably more than cover it in the long run.
Would it lead to inflation? Not if the costs were derived from taxes due to the government (which currently get dodged), rather than through national debt.
Would it lead to a positive outcome for the nation? Arguably yes, but there may also be unintended consequences to the negative. Human greed knows no bounds, after all.
Wow, two months rent for having a baby. That should fix it.
Not sure that covers two month's rent for the kind of space you need for the 5 women to average a baby every 2 months.
That won’t even cover half of the (insured) cost of even the smoothest birth with my plan, and I work for a multi-billion dollar company.
This country, man. Having traveled abroad a bit, you start to realize how tunnel-visioned people stateside can get. Don’t even realize how much they/we are getting fleeced.
giving birth in a hospital costs $10k, after insurance payback?
Our deductible was about 6,500. It depends what kind of plan you're on
Having traveled abroad a bit, you start to realize how tunnel-visioned people stateside can get. Don’t even realize how much they/we are getting fleeced.
It's the classic of someone having to visit a doctor while in Europe. And they're always shocked at how cheap it is in comparison. Even people who know it's much cheaper tend to think it's like 50% , not 99-100% less. I had an emergency room visit with blood and urine testing, painkiller injection, private exam room, etc.. It took a few hours and was about $25 that you could pay at a machine on your way out.
I was gonna day $5k is just a handout to insurance companies for just the birth of the baby.
Which is, well, the end of Republicans giving a shit about babies and children.
They chose to use a stock photo of a million dollars.
$5000 is only 2 and a half of those bundles of $20’s.
These people are trying to run propaganda for Trump, they can’t even keep their fascist bullshit straight.
Is that a million? They're 20 dollar bills in packs of what looks like it might be 100, so $2000 per pack. There's about 50 of those, so $100.000 in total. Maybe I underestimated the pack size and number of packs and it's actually $400.000, but I think it's unlikely to be a million. (I still agree with the rest of your comment of course)
Better Idea, let's fix the economy so people can afford to have Babies.
Or fix the world so we want to have Babies.
Or lower the price of housing so we have a place to put babies.
Or open forced breeding camps, shanty towns and and slave labor...oh wait.