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When will the left drop the sectarian BS and work together? (hexbear.net)

submitted 1 day ago by MayoPete@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net

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I am at risk of being sent to a camp because my brain works a little differently than others. Being on the left isn't going to help.

Our friends and colleagues are being deported and jailed just for having anti-Zionist opinions and daring to express them.

Right wing violence is Surging. Our Trans comrades are in increasing danger. We are all having our rights stripped away...

...and the largest new thread is another fucking anarchist beefing with MLs.

What is it going to take for us to work together and fight a common enemy? Anarchists are not my enemies. I don't care which series of 200 year old books you have or have not read, and you shouldn't care either.

You know who ARE my enemies? Those old white people who go to Republican party meetings and plot to deport my neighbors and throw me into a "wellness" camp because they're too much of cowards to handle anyone different than them.

I'm sick of all this endless infighting! Can we all just, IDK, organize to shut down some local GOP meetings, or create some Socialism 101 agit prop, or do anything productive? Or is this what the left does, just endlessly bicker over books online?

Get outside, touch grass, and accept the person next to you no matter what kind of left they claim to be. We're not big enough for this and I really need you to organize because I like living outside of a DHS cage.

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[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The contradictions are sharpening no doubt, but so few people have internalized the reality of the current situation.

Denial - most people are still here
Bargaining - marginally aware people are here
Anger - a lot of libs are stuck here
Depression - many baby leftists
Acceptance - leftists that actually might organize and do something

Take for instance "the erosion of due process" that is animating libs very effectively. The problem is that this framing feeds into a Blue MAGA mind palace perspective. If they weren't against Kamala et al due to the US prison industrial complex, they still are a long way from Acceptance of the reality. There are a lot of radlibs that are currently comparing the unfolding process to "USSR", "Chinese Authoritarianism", North Korea and so on.

We have to filter out chauvinism while organizing for the current situation, then some real progress can be made.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

socialism has powerful enemies. Those enemies don’t care how you feel about Marx or Makhno or Deleuze or communism in the abstract, they care about your feelings towards FARC, the Naxals, Cuba, North Korea, etc. They care about your position with respect to states and contenders-for-statehood, and how likely you are to try and emulate them. They are not worried about the molecular and the rhizomatic because they know that those things can be brought back into line by the application of force. It’s their monopoly on force that they are primarily concerned to protect. When you desert real socialism in favor of ideal socialism, the kind that never took up arms against anybody, you’re doing them a favor.

from https://redsails.org/tankies/

[–] CeliacMcCarthy@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

the kubler-ross stages of grief are not sequential, acceptance isn't an end point

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

And guys I've met that have read Marx, Lenin, Kropotkin et al turned into crypto bros. It might honestly still be a pretty decent analogy.

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

The stages of grief are not anything, really. There's basically no evidence to base them in reality. Borderline pseudoscience.