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[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The problem with "body type" is that it is actually a gender selector too, but they don't tell you that. If you're body type 1 NPCs refer to you as she/her, and if you're body type 2 NPCs refer to you as he/him. They needed to add a separate pronoun option, but didn't, so right now the body type option is just the gender option but pretending not to be.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

If body type and pronoun were seperate or if there was more than two body types.. I'd understand it replacing gender a lot more.

The way it's implemented it just feels like they're checking a box that says "Corporate doesn't want us to say the G word."

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Exactly. It feels performative, because they didn’t take it far enough. Cyberpunk 2077 handled it very well, where you can separately choose whether or not your character has breasts, which genitalia they have, voice type, pronouns, etc… Since every single individual part is independently editable, there’s very little room for misgendering.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Cyberpunk actually ties your pronouns to your voice selection. You can't have the feminine voice and be called he/him. There might be a mod for that, though.

[–] eRac@lemmings.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They likely only have a dialogue script for masculine and feminine, which swaps both player and npc dialogue. They'd need four scripts and cutscenes timings to make both player voices work with both NPC pronoun uses.

[–] dabaldeagul@feddit.nl 1 points 22 hours ago

In theory, if designed in advance, this shouldn't be too bad right? Make the lines separate audio files, and when one ends (or is x% finished), trigger the next. Would probably suck to implement now the full game is out already, though. And for relatively little benefit (saying this as a trans/NB person) so I get why they didn't add it after (or near) release. I do hope the next game does this better, though.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

If "Body Type" worked like it did in Cyberpunk 2077 I'd never complain about it again

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Would've been better if they just did it as "bodytype_masculine" and "bodytype_feminine" or something like that.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

This would be the best compromise imo

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago