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Sometimes we create our own problems. (lemmy.world)

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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

O...kay but that doesn't address anything I actually said.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

though the generator is going to be far more eco friendly than the batteries over their respective lifetimes

That's just not true.

vastly inferior solution to the implementation of even local grid scale solutions.

Same as solar. But you seem to be pro rooftop solar but not home grids and no explanation why.

Also because there is essentially 0 infrastructure designed to handle said batteries,

Makes no sense because the struggles the grid currently has with solar will be offset. Home batteries reduces demand on the grid and internalise production and demand more into the house.

they wear out quite quickly at home scales (unless you're using uncommon chemistries, but if you're using iron-nickle batteries you're not the target audience here)

In a cost exercise if the batteries last longer than the payback period they are worth it. Which is the case so that point is meaningless.

and because Elon popularized them with his "powerwall" bullshit entirely to pump the stock value of Tesla's battery plant (which is it's own spectacular saga I encourage you to look up, it's a real trip).

I don't under a CEO pushes a good product that helps the grid and helps consumers make money. Your bias against Elon is just limiting your world view.

Batteries in the walls are useful in niches, but the current technology which uses lipo/lion/lifepo4 chemistries is inherently flawed and a route to both dead linemen and massive amounts of E-waste.

Chemistry has nothing to do with electrons on the wires so that doesn't make sense. Lithium ion batteries are recyclable. Yes batteries are Bette Ron the grid but getting them connected is hard. Same solar, waste on roofs but thats how it goes. The arguments are the same.

They could be useful potentially, but as it stands, it's really bad right now.

They are useful. They aren't bad.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Neat, a point by point breakdown. Love those. In no way are they fingernails to the blackboard of internet discussion.

Lets just get this over with:

That’s just not true.

Okay it's pretty clear you're very unfamiliar with this subject.

and no explanation why

The entire rest of my comment explains why. That's what the whole comment is about. "Why" is the entire thesis of the comment. It is the comments entire raison d'être. In summary: the inefficiencies inherent to distributed implementation, the lack of service infrastructure, the short lifespans of the high-density battery chemistries needed in residential installs, etc.

In a cost exercise if the batteries last longer than the payback period they are worth it. Which is the case so that point is meaningless.

I don't really care, though. It's got nothing to do with the points I was making, which is why I didn't address it. It's largely irrelevant.

Makes no sense because the struggles the grid currently has with solar will be offset. Home batteries reduces demand on the grid and internalise [sic] production and demand more into the house.

Okay, no. This is not how residential demand or load balancing or power infrastructure works. There's components you're assuming exist that would have to run on magic to be safe (some kind of automatic interlock cut-in), and even those would absolutely devastate the grid by constantly adding and removing whole residential loads at random.

Your bias against Elon is just limiting your world view.

Oh buddy... buddy no. Come on.

Chemistry has nothing to do with electrons on the wires so that doesn’t make sense.

My gaster is well and truly flabbered. I honestly don't know what to say in response to this.

Phew, that sure was a lot wasn't it? Please please please take the time you'd use to write a response to this comment and go watch some electroboom videos instead, he's very entertaining and a great educator of the concepts at play here.