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Just putting this out there, I will never pay for a subscription service in my car. I didn't do it for the radio, I didn't do it for onstar, and I won't do it for anything else. I know I'm not the only one. If a car has a "feature" I have to keep paying for after I bought the car, no it doesn't.
afaik, even if you don't pay and never pay, features like onstar are still 'active', still have cellular connections enabled, and are still tracking your every move.
And attempting to circumvent them results in a DMCA if you get caught! Wonderful! Fucking clown world we live in.
Huh. I didn't get a DMCA when I unplugged the OnStar module in my car.....
I know someone that hasn't paid taxes in years. Hasn't been hounded by the IRS yet. Everything in our society is people. People are fallible. The image that the system is working is more powerful than the actual system at work.
Nobody's going to DMCA strike you for removing a fuse
Correct. The next time I have to buy a car that will be part of my criteria: if I’m paying more than $40k for something that shit doesn’t get to include a subscription.
That's a smart buying strategy, but unless you're actually pulling out the antennas these subscription services use it won't be an effective security strategy
I think that it was BMW or Jaguar that proposed a subscription-based seat heating option? I don't know where these people get their ideas, it's just wild.
For the time being I won't even buy the car. I know there's going to be a day where that's not possible. But for now, it's immediately off any list of be considering.
There's been an uptick in people interested in the older Ford F-series trucks and C/K Chevs. Barebones dash, heating & A/C system, radio, glove box. No weird electronic options, to Lowjack, nothing. I'm hopeful of some of the Japanese companies releasing new-model vehicles without all of the extra electronic baloney, but that's a problem for another day.
Closest thing you'll get to that is an MX-5. Their stringent weight philosophy doesn't allow for much electronics. I have a '19 club and it weighs ~2350 lbs. Which is like the weight of the wiring harnesses alone of a Tesla. The MX-5/Miata is about as bare bones as it gets for a newer legal vehicle.
Interesting idea, this bears looking into.
Oh, as a potential role model, I definitely advocate for it. Ive owned corvettes, a WRX, GTO, Trans Am, and driven far more powerful and much more expensive cars and believe it or not, it's by FAR my favorite. Between the driving characteristics, drop top joy, stereo and relative privacy, not to mention the absurdly low price of entry, I personally call it the perfect car. And if you are unsure of that stamp of approval, "Miata is always the answer" is a well known phrase amongst gearheads.
Edit: oh yeah... It's also reliable and fuel efficient.
TBH, I'm glad to see so many on the road now that I'm seeing fewer MGBs. The Miata's a worthy successor to foreign-auto roadster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_MGB
Got a '97 and yeah, nothing beats it if you're someone who loves to drive for driving's sake. Analog instrumentation, no screens, no "click here" buttons, no auto removed making decisions for me, no cameras or microphones or recording devices. It does have a rudimentary "cruise control" - probably a bad omen for things to come - but it only tries to maintain your speed, it doesn't try to match the speed of the car in front of you or otherwise encourage distracted driving.
The other vehicle I have is a 2005 Wrangler, nearly as analog as the Miata. I can't imagine getting rid of either in favor of an oversized, rolling surveillance computer.
Lmao! My other vehicle is an '11 Wrangler! Please tell me both are manual?