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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 393 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

Before anyone gets too excited, the headline is clickbait. The bigger Chinese phone brands are looking into de-googled Android. They are still going to use Android.

several prominent Chinese smartphone manufacturers, including Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, and OnePlus, are exploring the possibility of developing versions of the Android operating system that do not rely on Google Mobile Services.

Chinese laptop makers are also in search of an OS that isn't Windows. Queue a race to prop Linux with Android support on that side of things.

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 150 points 1 month ago (6 children)

de-Googled android sounds even better. The story is cooler than the title!

[–] eco_game@discuss.tchncs.de 106 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I like your spirit, but I don't think a Chinese equivalent to Google Play Services would be more desirable

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

All I want is unified push really. Then you just choose your server or host your own.

Or just Linux. Like furios or phosh, etc.

[–] mac@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

I wish more apps supported unified push!

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I mean they just replace Google with their own Chinese data-mining services so, no, not cool.

[–] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 month ago

Exactly what happened with Indonesian release of Huawei.

Also, more ads everywhere. Even your lock screen.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 11 points 1 month ago

No no no, it's not Chinese data mining.

it's just socialised data with Chinese characteristics! Much better.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

de-Googled android sounds even better.

They are already degoogled for the Chinese market. What the Chinese Android variants to not have is a shared replacement for Play Services and a shared app store because everyone is doing their own thing for maps API, payment, ...

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago

When the people are being beaten with a stick, they are not much happier if it is called “the People’s Stick.”

—Mikhail Bakunin

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I run that already with CalyxOS. I dig it.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

a duopoly is better than a monopoly but 3 platforms would be better

[–] 3laws@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is why my next GPU its gotta be Intel

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just read for a second about intel's history on anti competition practices eg they would ban stores from carrying out amd cpus in my country in Europe

[–] 3laws@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Oh yeah, I'm not saying they're the good guys at all. But we need a 3rd player on the GPU market.

[–] agitated_judge@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 month ago

It also says:

It is currently unknown whether these companies would aim for compatibility with existing Android apps or follow the path of Huawei's latest HarmonyOS NEXT, which removes Android app support entirely

So, it's not clear yet.

[–] radiohead37@lemmynsfw.com 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The US/China decoupling is happening everywhere.

[–] libra00@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The front line is everywhere, there be no shelter here.

[–] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

They got you searching for the thin line between entertainment and war.

[–] dzso@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I live in Asia. I'm European and meet a lot of Chinese tourists. Trying to find a common ground with digital services we both use is impractical to the point where we often can't connect online.

[–] troed@fedia.io 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Waydroid is pretty nice, integrating the Android apps as regular apps in the Linux UI.

[–] network_switch@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Waydroid is very close to greatness. My major hope there is Valve contributions to Waydroid for probable Steam Deck integration will make it incredibly seamless. There’s also the Android Translation Layer being developed

https://gitlab.com/android_translation_layer/android_translation_layer

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Am I the only one who never got Waydroid to run even basic apps..?

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I thought android in China was already de-googled

[–] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Some Chinese phone release outside China also began to de-googled as well. At least that's the case for Huawei in Indonesia.

[–] knighthawk0811@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

de-googled Android you say?

ISeeThisAsAnAbsoluteWin.jpg

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago

Too bad that what you want in a Google-free Android distro isn't what the manufacturers want.

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

KDE connect is already pretty sweet

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 month ago

Haven't tried it

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

So like how Huawei was hyping up their new mobile OS which was really just skinned AOSP?

[–] atthecoast@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This was a transitional stage, HarmonyOS Next is running a fully different kernel and runtime

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well there's that, but I was talking more about how they were selling it when hey first announced it. My point is that with stuff like this, the companies have lied before. I'll believe it when I see it.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

HarmonyOS is not AOSP anymore. It does not run Android apps anymore.