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I'm not a tankie but facts are facts. Russia was why the allies won WW2 in Europe, followed closely by the UK.
Actually, it was the Canadian soldiers that marched through Italy; the Canadian soldiers that marched north to Denmark and protected the American flank; the Canadian landing at Juno beach which not only protected the American flank, but pushed further and faster, greeting the American troops as they finally pushed off of their beachhead; the Canadian top command that developed the more efficient ways of fighting a modern battle, especially the results learned from the essentially Canadian Dieppe raid (which WAS successful, the Canadians got off the beach and made it to the post office for what they went for); the Canadian scientists that worked on the development of the Atomic bomb long before the Manhattan Project, and went on to establish Chalk River; the Canadian merchant marine that kept Britain supplied during the war... the list goes on and on. You do not need to be a tankie, just a good student of Canadian history.
Unfortunately for our Canadian legacy, we do not brag.
Probably for the best we don't draw attention to all our warcrimes lol
They were not war crimes when we did them, that came later when the world looked at us and went WTF Canada???
I'm not really sure that's entirely true.
But in either case I don't think being technically innocent really helps our reputation as much as being actually innocent would
You can't have a war without having 'war crimes'. Even n organized sports, they have referees and penalties for disobeying the rules.
To extend to this, the rest of the British Empire at the time did massive contributions. The Aussies did real work during the Africa Campaign, even holding a town that single-handedly crippled the Afrika Corps's advance towards Egypt (also Egyptions doing some great work supporting Commonwealth troops as they prepared for the counterattack), countless Indian sacrifices all over the place despite Churchill causing more Indian deaths than the Germans at the same time, New Zealand giving a good show despite basically not having an economy or a population at the time. Frankly, you can point at almost any part of the commonwealth, and they all punched way above their weights for this war, and that doesn't even start talking about the British homefront.
And outside of the colonies, Poland really carried hard on several ways, from volunteers flying during the Battle for Britain, to a single small destroyer soloing the Bismark for an entire hour screaming at the battleship dozens times larger than it (the full story of the Piorun is insane).
Either way, tons of recognition is deserved all around, not just pointing at the UK, Russia, and the US.
That's why it was called a 'World War'.
While that's largely true, it also oversimplifies the realities of the conflict.
Without American aid the Russians wouldn't have been able to repel the Germans nearly as effective as they did (if at all), and without D-day splitting the war into two fronts, Russian losses on the way to Berlin would've been significantly higher.
That all said, Trump's statement is obviously horseshit and a complete disservice to the rest of all the allied forces.
Exactly. Every nation gave something. The USSR gave immense amounts of life, the British gave intelligence, the Americans gave industrial capacity, the Canadians, Australians, and New Zealish gave a courage that they rarely are credited for, many British colonies gave enough to be able to leverage it in their pushes for sovereignty, the occupied nations and surviving German and Italian antifascists gave their resistance, intelligence, and worked to keep victims safe.
No nation beat the axis alone. Each combatant gave enough lives to hurt. Each nation gave enough money that the civilians felt the pain. And each nation had both fascists and antifascists in it. When we focus on who did most we open the door to nationalistic thinking when the lesson we should take is an internationalist one
I wouldn’t say the UK was the second most influential—realistically, that spot goes to the US. And I’m not even a big fan of the US right now, but their industrial power, global logistics, and role in both Europe and the Pacific made a massive difference. Without their support, especially through Lend-Lease and D-Day, things could’ve turned out very differently.