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[–] Carl@hexbear.net 51 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don't know much about the Red Army Faction so I looked it up and

The RAF has been held responsible for 34 deaths, including industrialist Hanns Martin Schleyer, the Dresdner Bank head Jürgen Ponto, federal prosecutor Siegfried Buback, police officers, American servicemen stationed in Germany

they sound pretty great ngl.

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

von der leyen was hiding from them in london lmao, the greatest miss after thatcher (although as a relative nobody, so it wouldn't be that pog)

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago

Yah IIRC they were students and young adults who started their org after WWII so they could get revenge on Germans who escaped punishment for their crimes. Especially people who participated in the Holocaust that served light prison sentences or none at all in exchange for research/testifying against someone higher up.

What got them into trouble was when they kidnapped some kids and started killing people who were too young to have done anything during the war. People were already iffy on the use of violence, but it was understandable because a lot of German young people were upset how their relatives helped the nazis. When you start doing too much adventurism and bystanders get harmed, that's when the public no longer wants to tolerate bombings.

The book that the movie Die Hard is based on had an RAF cell as its antagonists. When they adapted it to a screenplay, they had to change them to thieves because at the time, killing Nazi-hunters was a "bad look."^*^

*Just kidding, it's because Americans were too oblivious to eastern European politics to understand nuance, and they didn't want to bog down the pace of the story explaining that the Nazis didn't magically disappear because we did a heckin' D-Day-erino or that Germany was kinda fucked up as a result of it, and so forth.

Besides, it was a Christmas movie. You don't want it to be sad, do you?