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Most of the world uses "burger" semi-synonymously with sandwich - basically anything where the main is a big hunk of meat
I'm not going to pretend it's not wrong.
A burger, short for "hamburger," has two critical components, to wit: a patty, and a bun.
There are plenty of Germans on Lemmy. Maybe we can just ask if any of them are from Hamburg so they can clear this up.
But doesn’t it come from German immigrants to the US? Seems like the more traditional beef patty in Germany is Frikadellen, which has extra stuff mixed into the ground beef, like chopped onion. And is not usually served on a bun.
I had to go looking, since I was always told the same, in re. German immigrants and blending food habits.
From Wikipedia:
Etymology and terminology The term hamburger originally derives from Hamburg, the second-largest city in Germany; however, there is no specific connection between the dish and the city.[4]
By linguistic rebracketing, the term "burger" eventually became a self-standing word that is associated with many different types of sandwiches that are similar to a hamburger, but contain different meats such as buffalo in the buffalo burger, venison, kangaroo, chicken, turkey, elk, lamb or fish such as salmon in the salmon burger, and even with meatless sandwiches as is the case of the veggie burger.[5]
The term burger can also be applied to a meat patty on its own. Since the term hamburger usually implies beef, for clarity burger may be prefixed with the type of meat or meat substitute used, as in beef burger, turkey burger, bison burger, or portobello burger. In most English-speaking countries, including the United Kingdom, Ireland, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, a piece of chicken breast in a bun is a chicken burger. Americans would call this a chicken sandwich because the meat is not ground, whereas in other countries, anything with a bun is considered a burger and a sandwich uses other types of bread (sliced bread, baguette...).[6][7][8][9]
Yeah I always figured etymologically hamburger was a knock at German immigrants (who might or might not have been from Hamburg.) based on the foods they ate, which were rough analogues, if even that, of the foods they ate in the country from which they came.
Similar to how we get other terms like French fries or Canadian bacon or English muffins.
Where did the ham go?
Go to Mexico. it's still there.
'twas elided
Burger is round, sandwich is elongated.
Sandwich is rectangle, sub is elongated
I've had long burgers and radially symmetrical non-burger sandwiches. A hamburger is defined by the minimum of a patty and a bun.