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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I’m a descendant of immigrants in the Netherlands and there is definitely a small subset of 2nd and 3rd gen immigrants who is ruining it for all immigrants. PVV would have never been voted in as the biggest party if the parents (who never bothered to integrate and to learn the language) of these trouble making 2nd/3rd gen migrants weren’t given permanent residency.

30 years ago people who pointed out the problems these non integrated migrants could cause in the future were labeled racists by the left wing parties at the time, even though the leader of the socialist party warned about this. The labor party who was in power at the time also didn’t bother to tackle this issue, since they relied on the immigrant vote. And now since the Muslims started their own center right conservative party, labor lost a big voting block and the fascists are in power because people have had it with the inaction of the labor party.

Same thing is happening with the refugees. The illegals who have zero chance to get a refugee status and who are committing crimes have soured people's attitudes towards the real refugees. Towns that were once welcoming towards refugees want to see the refugee center in their town gone.

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Same thing is happening with the refugees.

Yes they are being used as a straw man to scare and polarize people.

The illegals who have zero chance to get a refugee status and who are committing crimes have soured people's attitudes towards the real refugees.

And it is working.

[–] jwt@programming.dev 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Are you familiar with the situation in the Netherlands? Because points OP raises are not really polarizing in the Netherlands. Maybe you're for example misunderstanding the phrase 'The illegals who have zero chance to get a refugee status' because some parts got lost in translation ?