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Bonus points for Marty Makary (a surgeon with no particular experience in infectious disease) being the spokesperson for this. I wonder if he's the only licensed doctor they could find in the government willing to advocate for this policy?

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

While I think this is kinda dumb, there are SO many exceptions it includes almost everyone. I understand they want to generate more data to determine the effectiveness of these vaccines, but this exception list is just pointless. Either open it up to everyone like it was or make the exception list more restrictive if you want to do actual science.

Here is the exception list. Some of these should truly be exceptions, but inactivity? Depression? Granted I’m no doctor but this seems asinine.

Key Underlying Health Conditions Include: • Chronic Diseases:

•	Diabetes (type 1 and type 2) 

•	Obesity (BMI >30 kg/m² or >95th percentile in children) 

•	Chronic kidney disease (including those on dialysis) 

•	Chronic liver diseases (such as cirrhosis, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, alcoholic liver disease, autoimmune hepatitis)  

•	Chronic lung diseases (asthma, COPD, bronchiectasis, interstitial lung disease, pulmonary embolism, pulmonary hypertension, cystic fibrosis) 

•	Heart conditions (heart failure, coronary artery disease, cardiomyopathies, etc.) 

•	Cancer (including hematologic malignancies) 

•	Cerebrovascular disease (such as stroke) 
•	Immunocompromised States: 

•	HIV infection 

•	Primary immunodeficiencies 

•	Use of corticosteroids or other immunosuppressive medications 

•	Solid organ or blood stem cell transplantation 

•	Neurologic and Developmental Conditions: 

•	Dementia, Parkinson’s disease 

•	Disabilities (including Down syndrome, cerebral palsy, neurodevelopmental disorders, mobility disabilities, and others) 

•	Mental Health Conditions: 

•	Mood disorders (including depression) 

•	Schizophrenia spectrum disorders 

•	Other Conditions: 

•	Pregnancy and recent pregnancy 

•	Smoking (current or former) 

•	Physical inactivity 

•	Tuberculosis 
[–] leadore@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And the provider giving the shots will probably make you bring paperwork stating you have whatever condition (to cover their ass), which narrows it down to those with the time and money to get it -- and I doubt insurance will be required to cover it any more, so that's another $200-300.

But that's not even the point, since if the goal is less spreading and mutations, which means the more who get the vax the better, and that means including young and healthy. [narrator: that, of course, is not the goal]

[–] aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Physical inactivity? What paperwork do you bring for that?

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

A doctor's order for the vax or being >= age 65. I'm saying they'll probably require it. We'll find out.

[–] roguelazer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Until they actually publish the policy, who knows, right? Just because that was the "high risk" list last time doesn't mean that the new FDA won't declare that the only risk factor is having a golf handicap above 3...