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Elaborate!
I don't really know how to do that other than to dig through replies from hexbear users pointing out how much vitriol they use. But in general, there's a lot of name-calling (e.g. since you disagree with me, you must be a "white cracker," "minstrel," etc. -- wtf kind of problem these guys have with minstrels I don't understand); a lot of posting of flippant reaction images instead of actual responses, and so on. They're clearly very angry about politics, which I get, but also have no interest in actually debating politics with any level of subtlety; even when I agree with someone in broad strokes but disagree about a particular item because I think it's counter-productive to their own cause, I just get harshly told off. As a result, I can only assume they imagine everyone else is disingenuous.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minstrel_show
That's a pretty unhinged insult tbh.
Every time I think of how fucked up things are now, I am glad we at least made some progress. Although recently, things seem to progress backwards with all the shit going on.
Oh I see, didn't realize this is what it was. Honestly that's so much worse than what I was thinking.
The term by itself goes back further than that, and doesnβt mean that originally. So itβs very βcleverβ of them to appropriate the term in this particular context.
Ah yeah, even in that thread, there were people responding with images or immediately labeling me a liberal without explaining or knowing anything about my views except that I seemingly sided with Ukraine. One person was very angry and needlessly escalatory with their "go fuck yourself". Another felt the need to comment on my post history and try to use me running an Epic Games community against me. There's a lot of ad hominem and straw man type arguments, which is usually indicative of not having strong counterarguments on the main subject itself.
I get the same shit on world or other super lib instances claiming I'm a Tankie or fascist apologist or what the fuck ever if I at all question the msm narrative, point out democratic failings, etc.
Yeah that's basically my feelings too. I wonder why they are so defensive. (edit: /gen)
I don't know if this is sarcasm. If it isn't, it's because they're supposedly leftists, but they have also been told they need to support authoritarian regimes who often harm people they're supposed to want to help, especially Russia invading another much smaller nation (and fighting them poorly). They can't reconcile these two beliefs, so instead they can only attack others.
That's every internet discussion. You skipped over the constructive arguments and effortposts, didn't address any of their valid criticism, and focused solely on the shitposts. If you're not engaging in constructive discussion, mods can remove you at their discretion.
Are you serious? If anything, I ignored the angry comment, the low effort image comments, and the one outright denying the mass killing of millions of Ukrainians (which was my reason for reporting it), but I engaged at length with the people who were making more or less proper arguments. I could have engaged with the top one about Ukrainians praising Bandera and remind the person that they should have a perfect understanding of how that works, given that tankies (which was that user's self-description) too praise the adversaries of their countries despite Stalin and Putin's track records making Bandera's pale in comparison, but I thought that would be way too triggering, so I didn't post that draft.
No, that's not it. I am not denying that there is constructive and high-effort activity on the instance. But the moment-to-moment conversation is superlatively hostile, (at least when I show up lol), and I'm making pretty tame comments -- it's not because of me. I don't anywhere near that amount of venom in other instances.
Start making leftist (i.e. anti transphobia, pro worker, pro environment etc) comments on .world or .shit and you'll experience a lot more vitriol. At least that's been my experience and the reason I stay away from these cesspools.
My experience with .world has generally been mild, though I have seen hexbear users criticize them often for being too conservative. I guess I don't interact with .world much.
Yeah, they're the worst part of the worst periods of 4chan. I don't think that's where most of them come from, but it's the same type of people.
The fact that they always support authoritarianism is just the cherry on top that makes them totally unreasonable.
Funny, I would've thought "the worst part of the worst periods of 4chan" would be all the bigotry, racism, transphobia, and that sort of thing.
It is at least bigotry.
Bigotry gets you banned from Hexbear fast.
Unless you wanna play the, "Saying Palestinians should have rights is antisemitic" card or something similar.
No. I'm talking more about anti-westernism. It's still bigotry. Some bigotry gets you banned quickly, but not all of it.
I didn't mention Palestine. You're creating a strawman. Anti-zionism is good. Stop the bullshit. You know they're also against anything western, but they'll defend Russia invading a sovereign nation.
I guess you didn't see the "or something similar."
Yes, they're against western nations, just like they're against the nation of Israel. Thus the comparison. Neither of those things are bigotry.
That is not included in similar by any reasonable measure. There are bad things in every culture. I'm not anti-russian or anti-china, even though I'm anti-authoritarian. All cultures also have plenty to offer. It's bigotry to have hatred towards an entire culture group.
Interesting how your geopolitical positions don't imply bigotry towards the countries you oppose while their geopolitical positions do, somehow π€
As I said, I'm not anti-any-culture. Authoritarian is not a culture group. I'm anti-authoritarian no matter who or where is doing it.
Cool. I am too, which is why I'm opposed to having a single powerful global hegemon throwing its weight around all across the globe and using economic coercion against developing countries. Apparently that makes me a bigot, somehow π
God, you're annoying. Stop strawmaning. That's fine. Being just anti-western isn't. The US isn't the west.
Right, I'm strawmanning. You're totally not.
The US isn't the only country that exploits developing countries, and the rest of western countries help it maintain its hegemony. Still miles away from connecting this to bigotry in any way.
Bigotry: The state of mind of a bigot; obstinate and unreasoning attachment of one's own belief and opinions, with narrow-minded intolerance of beliefs opposed to them.
Ironically, you're being a bigot right now.
Lmao. Is this a bit? If I have a narrow-minded perspective on what constitutes a sandwich, does that make me a bigot?