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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.

If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.

Please don't forget to help keep this community clean by reporting rule violations, updooting good contributions and downdooting those of low-quality!

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0. Only post socialist memes


That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


0.5 [Provisional Rule] Use alt text or image descriptions to allow greater accessibility


We require alternative text (from now referred to as "alt text") to be added to all posts/comments containing media, such as images, animated GIFs, videos, audio files, and custom emojis.
EDIT: For files you share in the comments, a simple summary should be enough if they’re too complex.

We are committed to social equity and to reducing barriers of entry, including (digital) communication and culture. It takes each of us only a few moments to make a whole world of content (more) accessible to a bunch of folks.

When alt text is absent, a reminder will be issued. If you don't add the missing alt text within 48 hours, the post will be removed. No hard feelings.


1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here


Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.


2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such


That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.


3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.


That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).


4. No Bigotry.


The only dangerous minority is the rich.


5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.

(if you are reading the rules to apply for modding this community, mention "Mantic Minotaur" when answering question 2)


6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.


Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.



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[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nah. Shareholders count. Stock traders count. Billionaires count.

Honeatly, most ceo's count.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So anyone with a retirement account should get assaulted? They are shareholders.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, absolutely. That is exactly what i was talking about. Thank you for your deep and good faith understanding. I feel seen.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Are you planning on killing yourself instead of retiring?

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

No. I expect the government to take care of that.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And how do you think that works?

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There are literally multiple agencies that exist just to do that, and the current administration is pretty loud about their commitment to taking care of me. I'm confident it's being handled.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Which government are we specifically talking about here?

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The united states government. Im confident they'll take care of me if I contribute enough to society.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Ok so if you’re an American you cannot count on social security to exist unless it can invest in the market. You have a massive glut of old people and fewer to replace them. That means your government cannot afford to maintain social security unless your population grows substantially and it is shrinking.

SO if you don’t plan on killing yourself you will either need to move to a nation whose population is growing OR you need to become a stock investor via mutual funds. You will have to become what you hate.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, social security to retire on is what i mean. The multiple government agencies that are social security. We are absolutely having the same conversation.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The math is the same no matter which agency you are talking about. The funds either get invested in a market paying a return or you need a much larger working population than a non-working adult population paying taxes to maintain these payments.

The math for the next few decades does not support the idea that the government can afford to cover retirement as Gen X is so much smaller than the Boomers unless they take in a lot more immigrants which is unlikely given how racist Americans are right now.

There’s no path for you to retire.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes, exactly the same conversation. Talking about the exact same thing.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Then please explain where the money for your retirement would come from?

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, saaaaaaame conversation. I expect the government will take care of me sooner or later.

Sooner if i do good. A little later if i just walk arpund being queer.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you think you are going to get put in a camp, are you making any attempt to escape the nation before this happens?

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Nope. No resources, nowhere to go, no friends in places not heading the same direction at similar pace, and i expect it to spread wider. It kinda always does.

Sick of running anyway. Sick of everyone who could help me bailing when im in a bad spot. I think people running away and not stopping monsters, being polite and looking away, grumbling and surrendering their agency to 'representatives' who only ever seem to represent the interests of apocalypse cultists or kleptocrats, is a big part of how it got this bad.

And with the climate going the direction it is, no matter who and where you are, you're fucking delusional if you think your money's going to buy an old tired body jack shit in 20 years, much less 30, 40, 50, if we dont stand and fight for a better more equal less searing world, fight with weapons, starting sometime early yesterday.