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WHAT'S YOUR PLAN THEN MOTHERFUCKER?
Let capital do what it wants
If AI companies are telling the truth (HA!), then we're on the verge of automating nearly all human labor. At that point, any claim of meritocracy goes out the window completely. We no longer have a competition of people each trying to succeed by their own merits. The economic winners from now on are just those who happened to already have money at the time of the Singularity. Such a scenario doesn't even leave room to pretend that meritocracy still exists.
The solution? Nationalize the AI companies. From now on, any AIs must be publicly owned, and any of their output belongs to the public.
In other words, the moment you build the grand Communism engine, that's the time to actually implement Communism.
I don't know that AI will reach the same level of quality as workers unless it reaches the same level consciousness as humans or, at the very least, as non-human animals. At which point we need to start considering the rights of the AI, which will lead to the same workers' rights arguments except the Right will claim AI should have no rights because they already do that to living humans in the present.
I've considered this as well, but machines need not be conscious to replace human labor. Maybe there is some ineffable spark of human creativity that is necessary for coding that no machine can duplicate. That doesn't mean that eventually they can't have 100 AIs working on coding with one poorly paid human at the end of the line providing that ineffable spark for $12.50/hour. Even if some human input is always required, that doesn't solve the labor displacement issues if one person can now do the work of a hundred. The steam machine wasn't conscious, but it still killed John Henry.
This is where the semantics breaks down. Having a plan would mean having some understanding of where we are at and what should be done to start moving forward. And you would need to communicate that understanding and that plan to other people... in what is otherwise known as a story.
We don't have a story, but that's OK because we need a story!