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Communists, known for their lack of planning
this post was submitted on 04 Jun 2025
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China out there just telling stories and winging it. Xi is great at improv. Definitely didn’t write three or four books on planning.
The Soviets using central ~~planning~~ stories to go from an agrarian feudal society with a literal Emperor to the first humans in space.
The fascist spear of Blitzkrieg which effortlessly ran through Poland and France was shattered on the bulwark of Soviet storytelling and forced to retreat back to Berlin due to strong narratives and character development
The Soviet Union fell because of the ossified leadership's increased lack of a knack for storytelling, and the Soviet people became enamoured by stories from the West. Of course they would come to regret that choice after the Union was dissolved and Harry Potter was eventually published…
Stalin was great at getting the whole Soviet Union to sit around a large fireplace while he smokes from his pipe in a rocking chair and tells a good story. Gorbachev was absolutely terrible at it, his stories don't pass the Bechdel test and all his self insert characters are Mary Sues.
This tracks. Have you ever seen a fascist encounter a deep complex narrative where the charaxters have lots of interiority?
You mean to tell me Game of Thrones was right all along?
Centrists think they're the adults in the room but they also think they're the only people that think they're the adults in the room. They think everyone else thinks of themselves as stupid babies.
Like seriously, have they ever met someone on the far-right that doesn’t smugly view themselves as anything less than perfection and everyone else as garbage?
They always have this idiotic case of 'main character syndrome', where they think everyone else is some moronic plebeian with no understanding of things, and they alone know the way.
Most people mature out of it in their teens - early 20's, but some don't.
as a dumb stupid baby, poo poo pee peee
WHAT'S YOUR PLAN THEN MOTHERFUCKER?
Let capital do what it wants
If AI companies are telling the truth (HA!), then we're on the verge of automating nearly all human labor. At that point, any claim of meritocracy goes out the window completely. We no longer have a competition of people each trying to succeed by their own merits. The economic winners from now on are just those who happened to already have money at the time of the Singularity. Such a scenario doesn't even leave room to pretend that meritocracy still exists.
The solution? Nationalize the AI companies. From now on, any AIs must be publicly owned, and any of their output belongs to the public.
In other words, the moment you build the grand Communism engine, that's the time to actually implement Communism.
I don't know that AI will reach the same level of quality as workers unless it reaches the same level consciousness as humans or, at the very least, as non-human animals. At which point we need to start considering the rights of the AI, which will lead to the same workers' rights arguments except the Right will claim AI should have no rights because they already do that to living humans in the present.
I've considered this as well, but machines need not be conscious to replace human labor. Maybe there is some ineffable spark of human creativity that is necessary for coding that no machine can duplicate. That doesn't mean that eventually they can't have 100 AIs working on coding with one poorly paid human at the end of the line providing that ineffable spark for $12.50/hour. Even if some human input is always required, that doesn't solve the labor displacement issues if one person can now do the work of a hundred. The steam machine wasn't conscious, but it still killed John Henry.
This is where the semantics breaks down. Having a plan would mean having some understanding of where we are at and what should be done to start moving forward. And you would need to communicate that understanding and that plan to other people... in what is otherwise known as a story.
We don't have a story, but that's OK because we need a story!
I disagree entirely with this. They DO have a story. It's a very clear and concise one. It's one anyone can understand and I think pretty much everyone does.
It just turns out the story of "do nothing and hope that somehow improves things" isn't a very compelling one
They've always had a story. It's the story they've been telling us since we were kids. It's meritocracy. That if you work hard and get good grades, you can do anything. That toiling is for suckers and you don't need to worry about it as long as you're clever and entrepreneurial. It has no basis in reality, but liberalism is an idealist philosophy. The only reason meritocracy fails is that not enough people take meritocracy seriously. Any counterexample (like systemic nepotism and graft, for instance) only proves that people aren't doing meritocracy correctly.
We have the correct ideas in our heads, and the only thing preventing them from manifesting are all of the people out there who have the wrong ideas in their heads. It is our burden to remind them that democracy is good and corruption is bad. And we have to be incredibly annoying and never stop talking about it at a Blue's Clues level of sophistication.
They want to campaign on abundance with climate change accelerating and mass insect deaths? This makes me feel more doomer than the doomer posts
Yeah the "we can techwizard our way out of climate catastrophe while gorging all the treats and living long lives and there some of us think there can be a billion of us and speaking of billions we need more billionaires that are real industry leaders" people aren't telling themselves a fucking story give me a fuckin break.
Ahh yes, "third way". That's never been the least bit worrying.
Okay, what's your plan?
No no, take your time. I know you haven't had one in a decade.
the plan: 
It's Abundance, the plan is to deregulate industries they want to promote.
Housing? Absolutely no rent control/property tax for empty houses. But if you get rid of the red tape then people will just build houses, and then the housing crisis will be solved!
Healthcare? The solution, as it turns out, isn't universal healthcare, it's to automate drug production (even more) which will definitely lower prices and won't just be the companies pocketing more profit.
Infrastructure? Did you know you can get derelict bridges up to code by lowering the bar? Redefine how many cracks/structural faults a building is allowed to have, and suddenly the problem goes away
Heartache is powerful, but democracy is subtle. Incrementally, you begin to notice a change in the weather. When it snows, the flakes are softer when they stick to your worry-worn forehead. When it rains, the rain is warmer. Democracy is coming to the Administrative Region. The ideals of Dolorian humanism are reinstating themselves. How can they not? These are the ideals of the Coalition and the Moralist International. Those guys are signal blue. And they're not only good -- they're also powerful. What will it be like, once their nuanced plans have been realized?
The Kingdom of Conscience will be exactly as it is now. Moralists don't really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Centrism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Look up at the sky, at the dark shapes of Coalition airships hanging there. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in moralism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth.
fucking commies