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Europe is capable of sustaining Ukraine's resistance against Russia, even if the United States were to decide to completely halt its military support to Kyiv, the senior military official in charge of coordinating Germany's arms supplies told Reuters.

Major General Christian Freuding said NATO's European members plus Canada had already exceeded the estimated $20 billion worth of U.S. military aid provided last year to Kyiv.

They accounted for around 60% of the total costs borne by the Western allies, he said.

"The war against Ukraine is raging on our continent, it is also being waged against the European security order. If the political will is there, then the means will also be there to largely compensate for the American support," Freuding said in an interview.

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[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Man I'm glad to hear that, cause the US isn't exactly a dependable ally right now 😅 (sorry, I wish we were 🥲)

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't think America can ever be considered reliable or an ally during my remaining life ever again.

[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just curiosity, which generation are you? Personally, I had this feeling during the second Iraq war.

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Clearly. That's when they showed that they'd attack anyone out of greed. Like they did in Irak.
Sadam was a brutal dictator, and I'm glad he's gone, but fabricating proofs of weapon of mass destruction as casus belli...

I remember well that some, like the French, did not fall for it (having their own spy satellites sure helps, I suppose), but I do remember the mockery about the French surrendering once again. Well they were right in the end. I remember some GoP politician trying to rename French fries to Liberty fries. A petty way to try to get back at them, I suppose.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I kinda feel the issues happening in the US will be resolved soonish. And by resolved I mean, either the US will fall apart, and add you said will continue to be unreliable, or trumpisn will be defeated

[–] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Even after trumpism is defeated, there's a lot of trust for the US people to rebuild with their allies.

If the people are so willing to vote in dictator idiot maniacs, then how can other countries trust those same people to not do it again?

It's the same for European countries at the moment as well. The UK is fairly less trusted right now because they vote idiots like Farage, Hungary is snubbed because Orban is a Russian колбаса sucker - so on and so on.

Those generations that vote these people in will still live a few more decades and as such any goodwill towards them is diminished.

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The root goes further than Trump. But Trump sure showed the ugly face of US then hidden shadow.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is true. It’s also true that Europe needs to have the capacity to handle something like this on their own. The complaint that the US won’t save Europe THIS TIME, AGAIN, says as much about Europe as the US.

[–] Anonymaus@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Usa never single-handedly saved europe, so I dont know what youre on about usa 'saving us again'

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

No we singlehandedly defeated Japan. We weren’t the ONLY ones fighting the Nazis, just the deciding power in that conflict. You’re welcome.

[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No American has a right to talk like this. Our history inspired much of the Nazi ideology around eugenics, we supplied the early Nazi war machine, we allowed a rally of twenty thousand Nazis to sell out Madison Square Garden the same year we turned away the ship St. Louis full of a thousand refugees, and we dragged our feet until we had absolutely no choice but to join the conflict.

We exclusively joined out of self interest at the last possible hour, and the entire world suffered for our mistakes.

If not for Pearl Harbor, we would have watched the fall of Europe and the rise and inevitable nuclear armament of Nazi hegemony, and we would never have achieved the economic prosperity of the mid to late 20th century. The sleeping giant would have slowly but surely died in obscurity while the Axis powers dragged the entire globe into a new Dark Age. Assuming we didn't outright join them or engage in mutually assured destruction with Nazis first.

The US did the right thing in the end by becoming an Ally, but only because the Axis chose to make us an enemy first. We saved ourselves. Nothing more, nothing less.

[–] Anonymaus@feddit.org 1 points 23 hours ago

You also didn't single-handedly defeat japan, large amount of the army was fighting and losing against the chinese and in the last days of ww2 soviet union joined the war against japan and defeated the best army japan had to offer, so the japanese were going to surrender not just because of american efforts