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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/31339435

By Orlando Mayorquín and Jesus Jiménez
Reporting from Los Angeles
Published June 6, 2025 Updated June 7, 2025, 11:10 a.m. ET

"The raid at the clothing wholesaler began about 9:15 a.m. in the Fashion District, less than two miles from Los Angeles City Hall.

It was an extraordinary show of force. Dozens of federal agents wearing helmets and green camouflage arrived in two hulking armored trucks and other unmarked vehicles, and were soon approached by a crowd of immigrant activists and supporters. Some agents carried riot shields and others held rifles, as well as shotguns that appeared to be loaded with less-than-lethal ammunition."

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[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

You watched and learned nothing, resistance isn't a trap and your passivity won't save you

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 21 hours ago

look our only options are to vote as hard as we can even when both parties are fighting to be the ones to do this policy

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world -2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I never said resistance was a trap. I said violent resistance was. Violence will hand Trump his Reichstag Fire on a silver platter.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Nonviolent "resistance" is worthless, idk what part of "they will make shit up anyway" you're not understanding

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 16 hours ago

Emotions have taken over their thinking process and are just lashing out. Sad how often they are like that

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world -1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is itching to enact the Insurrection Act. That will make growing our numbers far more difficult. Meanwhile, you’re advocating losing resisters to incarceration, scaring people back into their homes due to unsafe protest conditions, while giving Trump the justification he needs to strip our rights.

Do you always think with your feelings? You should try your brain. Logic and strategy know no cowardice. They only know how to outthink the opposition.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

idk what part of "they will make shit up anyway" you're not understanding

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

What part of “we will lose people to incarceration and fear” are you not understanding?

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm curious what you see as the winning strategy here. Truly. You can pm me it if you want.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

First and foremost, we need more numbers. Our largest peaceful protest was only 1.5% of our population at 5M people. Violent or non-violent, we will change nothing with those numbers.

The largest demographic in those protests were boomers, older people that would not be capable of, nor interested in, fighting. We use publicly available websites, shared on every social media platform, and that the most commitment we’ve seen so far. Violent revolution would require secured communication channels, losing additional numbers in the process.

People calling for violence truly don’t understand how few would show up. They’d quickly be hunted and incarcerated with such small numbers. The threats of violence would the keep most people in their houses, afraid to protest for fear of their safety, effectively suppressing peaceful resistance.

Calling for violence before we have the commitment is exactly how Hitler chipped away at wave after wave, and is precisely Trump’s plan. He first dispatched ICE to downtown LA, not skid row where they’d be more likely to find criminal immigrants. They raided a corporate business and several public schools first to gain the attention of the media, then against the governor’s wishes, dispatched the National Guard. We cannot be dumb enough to walk into an obvious trap set by the dumbest president in the history of our nation.