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Summary:

I downvoted pro-AI comments in a post in leftymemes community. It was LLM generated polandball comic (Which is objectively pathetic as fuck) that showed up on my feed, blocked couple of users who I thought were unhinged, and have blocked the whole instance on my client after realizing how rabid these morons are.

I didn't go looking for AI posts like a vigilante.

One user in question got miffed for being downvoted and banned me from places they moderate.

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[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I keep seeing dbzer0.com paired with some unhinged opinions. Is it a good site to block in general, or should I continue my current trajectory of just blocking the names I see making these opinions public?

[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

All instances are a group of individuals. If you're looking for a community without any assholes at all, let alone instance, you're in for a very unhappy surprise.

I'm reminded of an old small-community MMO I used to play where one player literally blocked anyone who said anything they didn't align with. It wound up with them pretty much asking questions in world chat and wondering why no one would answer, even though they got like 4 answers.

So if you're out to block every instance that has people in it with unhinged views, your lemmy is going to be very quiet someday. That might be how you want it, so I'm not saying don't do it. You do you. I'm just saying that you can't find gold without digging through dirt. Blocking a whole instance based on individual comments/posts that you've seen just seems a bit extreme to me.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

dbzer0 instance admin is pro-LLM slop. I'm fine with blocking the whole instance.

[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Some of it is, yeah. I think a lot of it is pro-technology. I'm a little iffy on AI myself. I want to be an author, and I feel that these days I'd be accused of using AI to write.

Hell, I enjoy using semi-colons, but have had to stop because people think that any semi-colon in a post or comment is AI generated.

Hope I caught you before you hit that block button. I wish you the best of luck and for what its worth, I'm sorry this happened.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Oh I can read your comment because this is a different instance.

[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 18 hours ago

Oh. I was under the impression that blocking an instance would block all users of that instance as well... I've never blocked an instance before, so I'm not sure how any of this works. My mistake, lol. 😅

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, I'm aware that "no assholes" is an impossible dream. But if I start seeing assholes and idiots increasingly attached to specific instances, it's incentive to perhaps just drop that instance. Different instances have different moderation policies and different target communities. For example "hilariouschaos" is an instance for people who've never left that 13-year old sniggering stage where "bewbs" is a word with intrinsic hilarity. So I can axe them comfortably.

[–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 19 hours ago

I mean, fair. I don't think we're all horrible here on dbz, though. Whereas I've never blocked an instance, I do like that the option is there.

I still think a lot of us here are just pirates who enjoy self-hosting. And some of us are simply ADHD and autism comrades, as dbz is understanding and inclusive about us.

Plus, I have instance hopped, too. I had lost my .world 2fa, so I moved without researching and found myself in the middle of a war that I was not happy being in. So I do get it.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

dbzer0.com is a good instance for things like piracy, privacy and other "non-standard" uses of technology. It is very anarchist.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So many people use "anarchism" in their identity that I just don't trust it. I mean there's anarcho-capitalists for starters... If there's a strong culture of pro-AI there, thought, that may be enough on its own to just get rid of them.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 days ago (4 children)

In my opinion dbzer0 is an important instance in the fediverse, along with blajah, shit.just.works, and even hexbear (which I blocked). These are instances that cater to communities that have no place in corporate social media. Thankfully, we have options to block users, communities or entire instances. If you find AI offensive (I find it useless and wasteful), you should absolutely block those communities, but dbzer0 is not an pro-AI instance as a whole and I think you would be missing out on very useful content. IMHO

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

but dbzer0 is not an pro-AI instance as a whole

It absolutely is, explicitly so. Go ask Unruffled if .dbzer0 is a pro-AI instance as a whole or not.

The rule there is that AI images are allowed, untagged, in every comm, and being anti-AI is against the rules of every comm.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Go ask Unruffled if .dbzer0 is a pro-AI instance as a whole or not.

Then why are there several users who are anti-AI and not banned?

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml -1 points 19 hours ago

Inconsistent enforcement. The mods consider it within their rights to remove content purely on the basis that it's critical of AI. Giving some of it a pass (for now) doesn't change that.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I started off strongly disagreeing but you make a good point. I think I would honestly be "happy" to see something like /r/conservative move to a decentralized platform (though that might be a bad example because it's purpose is more of a propoganda-spreader than a true "community").

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The consolation of social media into giant "cath all" dumpster fires forces everyone to engage, or at least be exposed to, shit like nazis.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Right exactly. A "community" like /r/conservative can't really exist on the Fediverse in the same way because it's current function depends on outsiders to engage with.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

I miss the days when white supremacists were relegated to shitty forums like stormfront.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al -3 points 1 day ago

When I see hot takes that range from "WTF!?" to actual batshit insanity, I always look at the source. lemmy.world, shit.just.works, and a few others (including dbzer0) seem to always be the host.

Increasingly I'm wondering if it might not be best to just shove these into the "block site" box. The trigger finger hasn't yet itched enough for it, but it's getting closer.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Unruffled, the second in command admin, has also pulled this bullshit of banning people for criticising AI. It's absolutely a pro-AI instance.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Anarcho-communsit, explicitly.

db0 isn't pro-corpo-ai, its pro-ai-the-technology.

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is it pro-ai-the-technology or is it mainly pro-generative-ai?

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm anti-"AI" ("scare quotes" because we can't even define intelligence yet, let alone build it), so sounds like it's a no-go for me and filled with the kind of people I really have no time for.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

That's mostly not true. You can block al the ai comms (I did, I'm not too much of a fan of Ai images) and its fine.

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

That's the claim. Yet, it seems to change whenever it's convenient to exert authority over others. Ironic.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Definitely not ayn-cap.

I don't think there's a strong "AI" scene there. They just have a sub for generated art.