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I teach 18 year olds who range in reading levels from preschool to college, but the majority of them are in the lower half that range. I am devastated by what AI and social media have done to them. My kids don’t think anymore. They don’t have interests. Literally, when I ask them what they’re interested in, so many of them can’t name anything for me. Even my smartest kids insist that ChatGPT is good “when used correctly.” I ask them, “How does one use it correctly then?” They can’t answer the question. They don’t have original thoughts. They just parrot back what they’ve heard in TikToks. They try to show me “information” ChatGPT gave them. I ask them, “How do you know this is true?” They move their phone closer to me for emphasis, exclaiming, “Look, it says it right here!” They cannot understand what I am asking them. It breaks my heart for them and honestly it makes it hard to continue teaching. If I were to quit, it would be because of how technology has stunted kids and how hard it’s become to reach them because of that.

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[–] socphoenix@midwest.social 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I understand the fear of technology stunting critical thinking but LLMs are pretty darn recent, what happened to these highschoolers the last 14-15 or so years that left them with little to no reading or critical thinking skills? Where is the talk of parental involvement, teachers and educational systems prior to this?

Teachers have an incredibly hard job but the constant stream of these articles feels more like they’re trying to pass off the failures of our education system and failures of parents/society for decades onto the admittedly retarded technology that’s very recently entered existence…

[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think it's a long-standing problem, yes, but there's no contesting that AI has demonstrably escalated the issue in a significant way.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And on the back of COVID where students got away with letting assignments falter or not showing up to things. There is a lasting effect of that as well and then the easy solution comes along. It’s a powder keg.

I think you're onto something important there. COVID broke all daily routine habits, good and bad. I could imagine that resetting these kids' ideas of what it means to learn, at exactly the wrong time.

[–] socphoenix@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

I’m sure it has, my main thought is this focus on AI is essentially deflecting from systemic issues and without actually addressing those the problem will continue to get worse with or without AI.

[–] Ydna@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I teach at a college - there's a LOT of resistance from the old school types who want to open the same lessons handed down to them from 25 years ago rather than change the methods and approach learning differently. I was just in a meeting on Monday where one department wanted the administrators to purchase a 3rd party $200k "AI detector" software thinking that would be the solution they needed. They were giddy about it solving their problem once and for all. I sat there face-palming 🤦‍♂️

[–] socphoenix@midwest.social 1 points 7 hours ago

That sounds like most administrators/departments heads where I’ve worked over the years. Always looking for the way to look good with the least amount of effort.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They're ok for high school, but they suck shit for academic writing. I have no idea why AI isn't great with writing a transition sentence or thesis statement. Seems to love bullet points.

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago
  1. Because most internet arguements wind up as bullet points
  2. Because we suck at grammar.
[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My kids don’t use LLMs because they take longer and do a worse job (still) than just writing it up themselves.

They DO use LLMs like people used to use Wikipedia, and Encyclopedia Brittanica before that: to surface information to investigate.

But I’ve taught them that writing is a method to communicate your knowledge, not to pass some sort of educational hurdle. So using ChatGPT would be useless anyway, as it doesn’t contain their insights.

[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's what I use it for. A slightly better Wikipedia, which is funny because when Wikipedia came out, schools were threatening punishment.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

nah they dont threaten punishments, they just wont recognize wikipedia as a source in essays. if you go into a writing lab, sometimes the "moniter" will try to lecture if they see you using wikipedia.

[–] Ragnor@feddit.dk 1 points 1 day ago

Just copy the source from the Wikipedia article after you check that it clears the bar.