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Unity: We have to charge for every install because we only see totals. Also Unity: We can tell which install is which, so you won't be overcharged.

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[–] dom@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ok so if they are now only charging for the first install, why aren't they just charging an extra fee per sale? Wouldn't that accomplish effectively the same thing? (And actually work out in unity favour since not everyone who buys a game downloads it)

[–] Veraxus@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because they realize that a huge number of their customers are small indies, and they want to be able to squeeze them - the majority of their customer base - not just the minority of big companies (who are also the most likely to fight back legally).

Just look at how their scheme squeezes smaller, poorer developers way more than big ones. If Unity went by points like, say Epic does with Unreal, they could shake down the big developers… but wouldn’t get much out of the indies.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 12 points 1 year ago

Which is the opposite of what smart companies like Adobe do. You facilitate the small players in hope that they grow big and keep using your products at a larger scale.

[–] skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] amju_wolf@pawb.social 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's probably pretty negligible numbers. In fact I'd suspect that the number of people who buy a single copy that they then install on multiple devices is lower than the number of people who buy a game and never play it.

It's also much simpler to implement and the numbers are verifiable. Unless... that's exactly what Unity wants; just "trust me bro this is the correct number" kind of deal.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People eventually upgrade their computers. Swapping out mainboards and/or reinstalling Windows probably counts as a new device.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 12 points 1 year ago

Also Steam Deck - every install and uninstall is considered a new computer. That's true for Linux gaming using Proton in general, but the rest of Linux gaming is not as relevant.

[–] lukas@lemmy.haigner.me 3 points 1 year ago

Trust me bro won't work when devs phone home custom install analytics tho.

[–] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think so. Even casual players reinstall their favorite games on everything they can manage. Think of Stardew Valley.

[–] Mkengine@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

The only major reason I can think of is people playing on PC and Steam Deck, using the cloud save to play on both. Sometimes I want to play the same game on the big screen and sometimes in bed.

[–] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It work for paid games, youd have to apply it to microtransaction level if by f2p game, which is the real target for the change.

[–] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Which is why Unreal Engine charges by revenue rather than by sale/install. It doesn't matter if the game if F2P, money earned is money earned.