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Lawsuit Alleges 'Secretly Altered' Vote Machines Stole Election From Kamala Harris
(www.westernjournal.com)
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We do. The machines print a paper ballot. The ballot is recorded electronically as well, but the ballot is inserted by the voter into a locked container.
The thing is, we don't always count the paper ballots by hand. We only do manual counts if the race in a particular voting district is very close.
There were a lot of districts that voted for Trump in numbers just large enough to avoid these manual recounts. A suspicious amount, some might say.
Some states do it this way. Other states do it all electronically (fewer now than in the past, thankfully). Other states do it all on paper and do the counting with offline counting machines, then spot check some precincts at random. Some do it by mail entirely on paper.
And that's the big reason why this line of inquiry is nonsense. The entire country showed a huge shift to the right, not just the swing states or the states that are more vulnerable. That's 51 entirely separate election systems that you'd have to manipulate, make sure public information about the election matches exactly, and also not go so far that any independent exit polls show anything fishy either. The scale of conspiracy to do it in even one state, make no mistakes, and have no one leak is hard to believe. Doing it across the entire country? You're going to need a lot more than "I feel like the numbers are fishy" to be convincing. The conservatives were wrong when they said 2020 was rigged, and anyone saying 2024 was rigged is equally wrong.
Many states have different methods, some better or worse.
The recount thing made me very excited the last few years. I totally agree with what you said.
It’s easy enough to get a printed receipt, and make a paper trail. It’s rarer to have those used.