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matrix is cooked (paper.wf)
submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by vga@sopuli.xyz to c/technology@lemmy.world
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Here's Matrix CEOs answer to this article: https://lobste.rs/c/jekh0n -- according to him the article is absurd amounts of FUD

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[–] eronth@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It feels like there could/should be a good modern chat protocol and voice protocol and you just pick which interface you want to use, much like email currently does, except for chatrooms.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

There is -- jabber and jingle. And for a ver-ry brief few weeks, Google's jabber/jingle worked openly with Facebook's, and everyone could message each other. And then BOTH arbitrarily broke it with some sparkle-junkie resume-bait software 'up'grade and neither worked with anything else after that.

It was glorious.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is: XMPP 🤷

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

modern

But i also feel like xmpp got feature creeped. Not to long ago, basically every messenger spoke its own subset of xmpp, basically.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's not any worse than the differen't feature support levels of different Matrix clients. But especially on Android, XMPP has nice modern clients with all the features you would expect, including a/v calls and reactions/stickers.

The main issue right now are up to date Windows desktop clients, but on Linux desktop there are some good options.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Add voice to IRC. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Good idea. That makes me wonder if voice over IRC is a thing. I feel like there might only be four people who know how to use it, but I bet I would enjoy hanging out with those four people.

Edit: Poe's law applies, apparently: https://github.com/asiekierka/voirc