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watch her stupid ass cry “i said UNFORTUNATELY” when people give her shit for this like that makes it better

also “60,000”. genocide denial. nobody actually believe israel has only killed 60,000 of these people

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[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 18 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

"the US/the west" is not in fact the same thing as "the US government"

In the current moment, yeah, "the US/the west" basically is uniquely evil, because they make up the imperial core and as a result are simply capable of more harm than any other group. You don't have to be particularly charitable to get that comment to a context where it's pretty damn reasonable.

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

she said in modern history which covers about 100 years. the japanese invasion of china and unit 731 would certainly fall into that category and they are definitely not "the west" and their specific evilness is more unique than just having power at any given moment. unless you dont count that which in itself is western chauvinist

the other person did not say anything about the "current moment", by the way. you added that

[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

the other person did not say anything about the "current moment", by the way. you added that

That would be why I said "You don't have to be particularly charitable to get that comment to a context where it's pretty damn reasonable." C'mon, basic reading comprehension please?

In any case, "Oh no, someone did a little hyperbole and didn't fully define their context, now I have no choice but to do imperialist apologia" is not really a great position for Contra to take even if it's true that the person she's responding to spoke a little carelessly.

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

look at first you were saying nobody said the one thing, which they did, and now you want to get all bent out of shape because she didnt phrase this thing in an exact way to agree which is pretty much what i said in my very first comment that you took issue with. it seems to me like you just want to "win" an argument on the internet so here's your victory. i give up. i dont care about natalie or this petty bullshit to say anything further

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