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Hi all, Something that I'm curious about with regards to China and the CPC are the different ideological factions that exist in the present day, particularly with regards to economic strategy, at home and abroad.

Going off of @xiaohongshu@hexbear.net's many useful comments in the news mega regarding Chinese trade policy, its commitment to dollarization, and continuing the export-led growth model that it has benefited from, I am curious to know what kind of discussions are taking place within the CPC between what I assume to be various liberal and left factions related to these topics. I know the party is lock-step when it comes time to make decisions, but surely there are many CPC members within the national congress who have differing views about how they should navigate the evolving international situation with a belligerent US and a global south that desperately wants more sovereignty and an end to Western unilateralism.

Is there any way a Westerner can be privvy to these kind of conversations within the Chinese government? Thanks!

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[–] spectre@hexbear.net 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That's surprising to me. He is a scholar of Chinese political philosophy at Tsinghua who has been critical of the turn toward neoliberal tendencies. I've read some of his translated works but they are incredibly dense (but fascinating!). In 2020 the Monthly Review did an entire issue about China, and most of the articles were written by "Wang Hui-ites".

I think you would find some value in his work. If you look into it (even at a surface/wikipedia/LLM level), I'd be curious to know your thoughts.

[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

could you link some of his stuff please? thank you

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

The books I've read (some of, hurts my brain after a couple chapters) are "China: From Empire to Nation State" and "The End of the Revolution" which I believe is a collection of articles.

Here is the link to the MR edition I mentioned, with the articles available to read online.

An excerpt from the "Notes from the editors" article:

Recognition of the full scope of Wang Hui’s remarkable contributions to socialist thought is a concrete way in which to gain a sense of the startling development of critical Marxism in China since the 1990s. Wang received his PhD in 1988 and was present in Tiananmen Square in 1989—after which he was sent to Shanglou, Shaanxi, for reeducation (not reeducation through labor) for one year, during which he became more acutely aware of the conditions of the peasantry (Wang Hui, “After the Party: An Interview,” Open Democracy, January 13, 2014). He focused much of his original literary research on the Chinese revolutionary writer and poet Lu Xun (1881–1936) and the 1919 May Fourth Movement. During the 1990s, at a time when questions of class and capitalism were effectively excluded from intellectual discussion, along with social history, Wang focused on intellectual history, examining the role of modernity in Chinese history and its encounter with the West, eventually exploring intellectual development during the entire Qing Dynasty. His many works include his four-volume The Rise of Modern Chinese Thought (not yet translated into English). The range of analysis in his works is enormous, encompassing literature, philosophy, politics, history, and economics. Central to Wang’s analysis has been a conception of the revolutionary party in the Chinese context, in which he has drawn on Antonio Gramsci’s The Modern Prince and the analysis of people’s war as a political phenomenon. From 1995 to 2007, he was coeditor of Dushu, a prominent Chinese intellectual journal.

In the late 1990s, Wang Hui emerged as a strong critic of liberals (and neoliberals) and of the ideological role of neoclassical economics, which was establishing itself as the dominant intellectual tradition in China at the time. In 1995, in response to one of the first articles on globalization in China, which had viewed it favorably, Wang wrote a short critical response in Dushu, relying on the ideas of Samir Amin, whom he had heard speak in Denmark the year before. At around the same time, the journal Strategy and Management brought out a critical article on globalization. These interventions set off the debate on globalization in China, with the critical Marxist view attaining greater prominence after the Great Financial Crisis emerging in the United States in 2007–09, which quickly expanded to the entire globe (Wang Hui, “Fire at the Castle Gate,” New Left Review 6 [November–December 2000]: 86, 95). Wang was to become close friends with Amin, introducing his talk at Tsinghua University in Beijing on May 7, 2018 (Samir Amin, “Marx and Living Marxism Are More Relevant Than Ever Today,” Tsinghua University, Beijing, May 7, 2018).

Much of Wang Hui’s work in the last decade has been directed at a critique of neoclassical/neoliberal economic ideology, accompanied by an exploration of China’s revolutionary history and its implications for the present. He has written extensively on V. I. Lenin and Mao Zedong and the Russian and Chinese revolutions. A central concern is to ascertain the “weak links” in the present world order that point to the possibility of new revolutionary breakthroughs. His work has also focused on issues of substantive equality, democracy in social organization (as opposed to formal politics), and ecological sustainability. Many of the younger Chinese scholars appearing in this and other issues of Monthly Review have been deeply influenced by his ideas, which are emblematic of critical Marxism today. (See Wang Hui, China’s Twentieth Century [London: Verso, 2016], 37, 136–40, 227–61, 286–95; Wang Hui, “The Economy of Rising China,” Reading the China Dream [blog] [written in 2010]; Wang Hui, “Revolutionary Personality,” Reading the China Dream [blog] [originally published in Chinese on April 21, 2020].)

[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] spectre@hexbear.net 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

If you're a fan of Red Sails I think MR is a nice complement (maybe you're already familiar)

Maybe from the excerpt I posted you can tell why I'm surprised comrade xhs isn't familiar with Wang's work! Hope we get to hear from them at some point

[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

i read MR on occasion yeah, usually when i get reminded about it when someone posts it in the news mega lol

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Subscribe! It's nice to get a hard copy of theory every month!

(Or don't idc, but I make a post encouraging people once a year or so)

[–] RedSailsFan@hexbear.net 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

i pay for as little stuff online as possible lol pirate-jammin so probably will not sorry