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Everybody has something to hide. That you don’t know what it is you should be hiding doesn’t make it disappear.
People don't think of innocuous, private, tech-facilitated conversations with loved ones as things to hide. That is, until they're receiving advertisements for caskets after papi kicks it.
Wait until the cherry pick it. EVERYONE can be criticized if you look deep enough and can gaslight. It's messed up that it has come that.
What? That I have a bum rash? That I watch hentai? That I vote Green Party? That my Credit Card is ...
Actually, yes to voting the green party. When authoritarian collectives gain power in a state, there is no question that companies will cooperate with them to stay open.
All that seemingly innocuous information can all of a sudden land you behind bars when it gets handed over to a government that is staunchly against it. LGBT folks in other countries, and women in anti-abortion states come to mind.
Yeah, a reminder that the Weimar Republic, genuinely innocently catalogued the German population with all kinds of information. Too bad that the democratic powers didn't stay in power and the Nazis had access to all the information including who and where Jewish Germans were.
This is btw the reason why you don't have "race" as a category in our census. The government actively doesn't want to know that thanks to the historical baggage.
This is why we really need to rethink the value of having any state at all. States need those tools and information to best serve its constituents, yet when it gets it, sociopaths immediately take it over and use it for evil ends.
Our problem isn't really a governmental one, it's an evolutionary one, but because of it it's impossible to have any kind of a functional government.
Maybe we ought to have a general AI run everything.
AI could just be a curtain for human actors, without accountability.
This is true.
So we're left with the original question: what system can we build that's sociopath proof, and if we truly can't, when do we get rid of the sociopaths?
Because we can't continue allowing them to dominate us.
Seems like the bigger problem is people voting in fucking science denying nazis to power.
Shortsighted scientifically illiterate people with voting rights is the bane of civilization.
I would agree, the lack of humanitarian and scientific education consistently bites our societies in the ass, though I've also heard plenty of pragmatic individuals throw up their hands and advocate for authoritarians before.
The big problem is that an authoritarian being voted in is always a looming threat, so it's best to avoid even the chance of such information getting into their hands.
And you do that by not gathering data on your users and making the data you do store encrypted such that not even you can decrypt it. No back doors.
Yup, when ever someone says that, ask to search through their underwear drawer. I guarantee they'll do a quick 180.
Oh no please not the underwear